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Post by Spiff_B on Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:40 pm

Bought the new issue yesterday, well p'ed off next issue is the last.

What with Crikey ending too, it's a miserable time to be a comics fan.

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:41 pm

It's an even more miserable time to be working for DC Thomson, I suspect.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:52 pm

tony ingram wrote:Actually, I think they might be dropping the 'Xtreme' bit...

Blimey. I find that Xtremely surprising! Very Happy

Spiff_B wrote:What with Crikey ending too, it's a miserable time to be a comics fan.

First Crikey, then Classics. I'm starting to feel like a jinx... Embarassed

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:56 pm

MLP* wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Actually, I think they might be dropping the 'Xtreme' bit...

Blimey. I find that Xtremely surprising! Very Happy

Spiff_B wrote:What with Crikey ending too, it's a miserable time to be a comics fan.

First Crikey, then Classics. I'm starting to feel like a jinx... Embarassed
Don't think we didn't know it was all your fault all along. You'll get what's coming to you, pal! Mad

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by Hourglass on Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:51 pm

Maybe if they made the stories run longer (like a mini arc) kids would keep on buying to see what happens.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:57 pm

They've been running some serials for some months now, but the fact is, it's a reprint title, most of the stories they were reprinting were one off, one or two page strips, and there's nothing you can do about that. I don't think it was really being bought by kids anyway, it appealed to the nostalgia market. And I'm not entirely sure sales were the only issue. From what Garry said, the recent organizational changes at DCT have simply resulted in heavy cutbacks and classics was one of them-they're outsourcing their printing so they have to cut back on titles. Just another sign of the times.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:37 pm

Plenty of highly obscure strips in this month's issue :

Dick Turban
Billy Green and his sister Jean
Tommy's Tick Tock Twin (with his Uncle Professor Dick)
Sleepy Ed
Sir Laughalot (in verse !)
Spoofer
Slojak

Hourglass wrote:Maybe if they made the stories run longer (like a mini arc) kids would keep on buying to see what happens.

Well, I dunno about kids but I've been buying to see what happens to the Space Kids ! Smile Don't suppose I'll ever find out if they got home now...

tony ingram wrote: I don't think it was really being bought by kids anyway, it appealed to the nostalgia market. And I'm not entirely sure sales were the only issue.

It always seemed a bit vague as to whether it was intended for kids or adults.
The recent revamp aimed it more firmly at the latter and it was much better for it.

Sadly it sounds like DCT decided to cull a percentage of their titles and Classics as one of the lower selling ones got the chop. Crying or Very sad

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:21 pm

I'd guess that when they were running their own printing operation a lot of titles remained viable which probably aren't if they're paying an outside firm.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:56 pm

An interesting article here which gives an idea of DCT's thinking at the moment :

http://downthetubescomics.blogspot.com/2010/09/will-beano-go-digital.html

Of major interest to comic fans are the company's plans for possible digital publication, which
Collins describes as "One of our big opportunities.

"We have access to five million pages of comic book material from the 1930s to current publications," he notes.

Suggests they are looking at merchandising and online activities rather than traditional publishing.

I guess in a few years time we could all be reading classic strips on our iPads or other mobile devices but it won't be the same somehow...

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:01 pm

It certainly won't be for me. i don't have an iPad or other mobile device...

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by Spiff_B on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:52 pm

Classics From The Comics as a Kindle magazine, please DCT!

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:54 am

Picked up the latest issue.

I guess the axe must have fallen very abruptly as there's an ad at the back for issue # 176 and references to next months issue in the editorial and elsewhere.

There will be plenty of annoyed / confused readers on Nov 10th !

I'll drop them an e-mail later so that they know there are some of us out here who will miss the comic !

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:29 am

We never even got to see the end of The Space Kids. Crying or Very sad

A sad loss. Classics was one of the best British comics still running-Garry was doing a marvelous job.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:49 am

tony ingram wrote:We never even got to see the end of The Space Kids. Crying or Very sad

I mentioned that to them in my e-mail.

And sadly the story is left on a cliffhanger.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by Spiff_B on Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:02 pm

MLP* wrote:Picked up the latest issue.

I guess the axe must have fallen very abruptly as there's an ad at the back for issue # 176 and references to next months issue in the editorial and elsewhere.
I was hoping that meant it'd last one more issue. Crying or Very sad

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:19 pm

No-the issue was already finished when they got the news there wouldn't be another one.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by felneymike on Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:56 pm

The axe did indeed fall very abruptly. Shame, what with the recent introduction of adventure stories and then text stories i was hoping it'd go the other way and we'd start setting bigger issues of 2-300 pages. The format of Classics isn't a million miles away from that of Shonen Jump, which is a US edition of a Japanese comic (though the US one is monthly and the Japanese one, with about the same page count, is weekly... dunno how they work that one out).

When i was a kid i read Classics but stopped when i "grew out" of comics (well, reading them anyway). If you are born in 1984 a story from 1963 published in 1996 is just as "new" to you as one drawn in 1996. If you see what i mean. When i got back into comics the patchy distribution of Classics was making things difficult too. It would not be on sale at all for months on end in Lincoln! I have a load of early issues knocking about in my room but number 1 remains elusive.

There was a stall with a huge stack of issues at BICS at the weekend, for a pound each! Unfortunatley the bags i had (and the arms holding them) were showing the strain by then. I'd bought a bunch of issues of some rag called Crikey... whatever that is.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:58 pm

I've heard of that, somewhere...

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:23 pm

Finished reading the final issue.

Some wonderfully obscure stuff as always ; First Ada, Moe and Joe and Daddy-O, Rah-Rah Randall, Dreamy Daniel and many more.

Highlight of the issue was Minnie The Minx. Baxendale's version was uncompromisingly aggressive compared to the more mischievous Minnie of Jim Petrie.

Oh well, so long Classics. It was fun while it lasted.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:24 pm

It was indeed. RIP Classics, you will be missed.
So, what did happen to the Space Kids?

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:30 am

After the cancellation of Classics, now the Fun Size line has been cancelled ;

http://lewstringer.blogspot.com/2010/11/fun-size-victims-of-downsize.html

Not that I ever actually saw them on sale anywhere...

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:57 am

Like a lot of Thomson's titles, they had limited distribution. Mostly, they were on sale at the larger branches of WH Smith. I can't say I'm surprised...

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:06 pm

In the absence of Classics we now have "Beano Retro".

http://lewstringer.blogspot.com/2011/02/beano-goes-retro.html

Not sure how succesful this will be. Old timers like me won't want to read the modern Beano and I'm not sure how interested kids will be in vintage strips.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sun May 29, 2011 5:58 pm

I have been missing my fix of Classics so I will keep an eye out for the following which might help fill the gap :

The Ultimate Beano Summer Special No.1

http://lewstringer.blogspot.com/2011/05/in-shops-now.html

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Sun May 29, 2011 6:37 pm

I'm intending to pick this up as well! It's been too long since I've seen a Summer Special...

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:22 pm

Picked up a copy today. The format is actually closer to one of the hardback collections that they publish for Christmas than it is to Classics.
68 colour glossy pages in a square bound format.
I guess the original artwork is long gone so it's been copied off the comic pages themselves, for that authentic aged "yellowed" feel. Smile
What I miss about Classics was the way it had scope to bring you long forgotten strips or some obscure stuff you'd never heard of. This special sticks to the more familiar Beano strips.

Surprised that Pansy Potter was still appearing as late as 1990 !

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:27 pm

As late as 1993, in fact. She was revived in 1989 after several years in limbo afollowing the demise of Sparky.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:28 pm

OK, well I've had a flick though and at least Calamity James, Karate Sid and The Mctickles offer something a bit more unusual than the just usual Beano characters.
Hopefully this special will be a success and the strips from the Dandy and Topper might make it into a future one.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:19 pm

The McTickles!!!?

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:54 am

tony ingram wrote:The McTickles!!!?

Indeed.

One other thing that strikes me about the special is that although they have an eye firmly on the kids audience, with a joke at the bottom of many of the pages, it would have been nice to use the space to have more context about the strips rather than just the year of publication.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:16 am

No credits?

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:47 pm

tony ingram wrote:No credits?

Sadly not. Sad

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:15 pm

Picked up the "Beano & Dandy Celebrate Dennis The Menace" book.
Would have preferred a bit more variety for the end of year nostalgia collection rather than a Dennis book.
The second half of the book looks like relatively recent stuff (late 90s on.)

Still, £2.99 in Waterstones sale and with a free reprint of Beano #1 and a Dennis DVD I guess I can't complain.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:19 pm

Is this a new Dennis DVD, or something previously released as part of the Beano Collection?

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:24 pm

"Dennis The Menace Classic Animation. "Hair Today Gone Tomorrow" and "Bathnight Club" Running time 48 minutes."

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by tony ingram on Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:28 pm

I think I'll look out for it when I'm in town. I likes me a bit of Dennis.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:41 am

Reading through the Dennis book. It's fascinating that Gnasher didn't turn up until 17 years after Dennis, given that the two characters are now synonymous.

The facsimile comic is the first Dennis issue from 1951. It's interesting just how dated The Beano of this era looks. Lots of text stories and adventure strips. Shows what a breath of fresh air Minnie The Minx, The Bash Street Kids and the like must have been when they arrived.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:01 am

I have that first dennis strip on a plate-or rather, Deb does. Very strange to see, too, that Gnasher was not the first family dog!

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:06 am

tony ingram wrote:I have that first dennis strip on a plate-or rather, Deb does. Very strange to see, too, that Gnasher was not the first family dog!

Yeah. I'm up to the late 50s strips at the mo (although sadly there's no dates on them in the book) and in the early Dennis strips he is very much a solo character without the now familiar supporting cast. Consequently various dogs, pigs and even a character called Walter all make "one off" appearances.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:07 am

He even lacks his trademark stripey jumper in the first one! When did he get that?

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Post by MLP* on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:09 am

A black and white striped jersey after six weeks which becomes black and red after six months or so.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:15 am

Interesting. Very much a gradual evolution. I'll hopefully be picking the book up on Tuesday myself.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:48 am

Dennis's cousin Denise turns up for a couple of stories. I guess she wasn't popular with readers as she is featured heavily in a couple of stories and then vanishes !

The early Smasher strips are interesting. Printed in red rather than blue and Smasher is shown as a redhead !

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:07 am

I haven't seen a Smasher strip in years! I used to like him. Very much a Dennis clone though, I always thought.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:48 am

Quite unexpectedly, spotted The Ultimate Beano Summer Special No.2 in Smiths today.
Billed as a "Diamond Jubilee Collectors Edition." Smile

A positive sign as it suggests that last years edition sold well.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:34 pm

These are all reprints from previous Summer Specials, aren't they? I was quite impressed with the first one, I'll have to try and track this one down next week.

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Post by MLP* on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:40 pm

tony ingram wrote:These are all reprints from previous Summer Specials, aren't they?

Yes, mostly Beano with a bit of Numskulls and Bananaman.

Had no idea it was coming out so it was a pleasant surprise to see it. Smile

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Post by tony ingram on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:43 pm

I wish they'd reprint some more material from Topper and Sparky. There's a lot of good material that gets overlooked because it wasn't from the Beano, it seems to me.

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Re: Classics From the Comics

Post by MLP* on Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:40 am

Dandy reprint :

http://lewstringer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/the-dandy-75-years-special-collectors.html

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:54 am

If I get the chance, I'll pick this up next week. If I'd known it was out I'd have bought it when I was in town on Friday!

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