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Post by Andrew Edwards on Thu May 13, 2010 12:15 pm

Hi everyone!

I'm researching the use of Hitler in British Comics for a Crikey! article.

I'd like to hear from you all about any such appearances that you remember from any period/style of British Comics, whether it's 'Addie and Hermy' from The Dandy, 'Day of the Eagle' in Battle, Morrison and Yeowell's 'The New Adventures of Hitler', or others I've yet to encounter!

Any memories, suggestions, references, URLs etc etc will be gratefully received. Feel free to email me personally (andrew.edwards@hotmail.co.uk) or via the Forum if you prefer.

Thanks guys!
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Post by tony ingram on Thu May 13, 2010 12:23 pm

Interesting. We already have one piece on Hitler in the works, coincidentally enough (more specifically, the aforementioned 'The New Adventures of Hitler'), so maybe we'll have a Hitler themed issue... Very Happy

Is this specifically Hitler or the Nazis in general?

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Andrew Edwards on Thu May 13, 2010 12:42 pm

Hi Tony,

Good to hear from you. Glenn suggested I expand on a blog post on 'Hitler and Comics' I wrote a while back -

http://andrew-madaboutcomics.blogspot.com/2009/12/its-interesting-to-come-across-old.html

- as an article for Crikey. I'm only assuming that the best focus would be Hitler specifically. I can leave out Morrison/Yeowell's 'New Adventures' to avoid overlap with your other contributor, if you like. I'm also open to widening it to Nazis in general too.

Best wishes
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Post by tony ingram on Thu May 13, 2010 1:12 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote:Hi Tony,

Good to hear from you. Glenn suggested I expand on a blog post on 'Hitler and Comics' I wrote a while back -

http://andrew-madaboutcomics.blogspot.com/2009/12/its-interesting-to-come-across-old.html

- as an article for Crikey. I'm only assuming that the best focus would be Hitler specifically. I can leave out Morrison/Yeowell's 'New Adventures' to avoid overlap with your other contributor, if you like. I'm also open to widening it to Nazis in general too.

Best wishes
Andrew

I think there's certainly scope for expansion Andrew-after all, the Nazis and their allies have been the principal villains in many British comics for the last 70 years, so there's no lack of material! The Beano had a dig at Mussolini too, as i recall...

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by felneymike on Fri May 14, 2010 6:08 pm

Before the war but when it was clear things were going that way there was a lot of stories in which the heroes foiled the warlike plans of "a central european country" or "a certain dictator" etc etc. One of which is the excellent "Captain Justice on Secret Service" Boys' Friend library i read recently. The country is never named but the various characters that come from the country all have German-sounding names, also it seems to have a very military-heavy/secret police infested society and has built an "aerial torpedo launcher" to bombard Britain with.

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by tony ingram on Fri May 14, 2010 6:14 pm

Anyone remember Baron Von Reichs-Pudding?

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by MajorHoy on Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:14 am

tony ingram wrote:Anyone remember Baron Von  Reichs-Pudding?
Since nobody responded in four years after you posted that . . . I'm guessing "No"?  Wink 

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:26 am

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Anyone remember Baron Von  Reichs-Pudding?
Since nobody responded in four years after you posted that . . . I'm guessing "No"?  Wink 
The Baron has my sympathy. It can be a terrible thing, to have one's acts of villainy utterly forgotten. It makes you wonder why you bothered.

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:53 am

So who was he?

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:51 am

Lucy McGough wrote:So who was he?
Baron von Reichs Pudding was a World War I German flying ace whose misdaventures were chronicled in DC Thomson's humour title [i]Sparky[/i in the 1970s.

http://britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/Baron_von_Reichs-Pudding

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:14 am

Ah. Okay.

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:38 am

Blimey - has it been four years since I wrote that piece? Where did that go? :-O

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:40 am

Andrew Edwards wrote:Blimey - has it been four years since I wrote that piece? Where did that go? :-O
It's frightening, isn't it? But where did you go, Andrew? Long time no see.  Very Happy 

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:21 am

Ahh, I know... I'm still about, but have spent the last four years writing a book on Swamp Thing and my PhD on Alan Moore. Both are nearing the end...

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:10 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote:Ahh, I know... I'm still about, but have spent the last four years writing a book on Swamp Thing and my PhD on Alan Moore. Both are nearing the end...
Alan Moore is nearing the end?  Shocked 

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:11 pm

Oh, cwipes!

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Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Nope, I'm sure that Alan Moore will outlive us all!

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:04 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote:Nope, I'm sure that Alan Moore will outlive us all!
Of course he will. He has dark forces on his side. Glycon will protect his servant.

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Mbast1 on Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:44 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote: my PhD on Alan Moore. Both are nearing the end...

A PhD on Alan Moore sounds so cool. Good luck! Plan to publish it?

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Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:01 pm

I'd like to, eventually. No plans as yet, but I will be looking into it once I finish it :-)

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:02 pm

What's the title?

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Re: Hitler in British Comics

Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:29 pm

It's Intertextuality in the works of Alan Moore. I started out thinking about the way he uses elements from a wide range of texts in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and then I set out to see how and why he drew influences from other texts all through his career, from his earliest UK work onwards. Beyond this, it's also focused on how readers navigate their way through reading the many works he's written.

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Post by MajorHoy on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:38 pm

Y'know, it's amazing how active an old thread that only had six posts has become in the past +/- eighteen hours or so . . .

 jocolor 

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Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:42 pm

That's true :-)

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:42 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote:It's Intertextuality in the works of Alan Moore. I started out thinking about the way he uses elements from a wide range of texts in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and then I set out to see how and why he drew influences from other texts all through his career, from his earliest UK work onwards. Beyond this, it's also focused on how readers navigate their way through reading the many works he's written.
I would very much like to read that. As some may have noticed, I'm a bit of a Moore fan.

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:43 pm

MajorHoy wrote:Y'know, it's amazing how active an old thread that only had six posts has become in the past +/- eighteen hours or so . . .

 jocolor 
It's you and your habit of resurrecting old discussions! It always happens!

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:53 pm

I'd like to read Andrew's PhD thesis too.

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Post by Mbast1 on Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:15 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote:I'd like to, eventually. No plans as yet, but I will be looking into it once I finish it :-)

I've read that some universities publish them without the author's permission. Might want to check into that, too.
If you do publish it, let us know. I will buy a copy. Sounds fascinating.

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Post by Mbast1 on Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:17 pm

Andrew Edwards wrote:It's Intertextuality in the works of Alan Moore. I started out thinking about the way he uses elements from a wide range of texts in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and then I set out to see how and why he drew influences from other texts all through his career, from his earliest UK work onwards. Beyond this, it's also focused on how readers navigate their way through reading the many works he's written.

Ok, now ever more fascinating. Hurry up, will you?

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Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:26 pm

Thanks guys - will let you know when it's done!  Smile 

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Post by Andrew Edwards on Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:29 pm

Thankfully I retain the intellectual property rights too :-)



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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:27 pm

Good Smile I'll let Tony read my copy after me.

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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:49 pm

Did you folks ever get stories like Hitler's brain being saved and placed in the head of a gorilla?


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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:09 pm

I can't recall ever reading that one, but Tony's read more than me.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:13 pm

Well, no. But we did have Hitler being kidnapped by mutant bounty hunters from the future.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:50 pm

Oh, and we had this...

http://britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/I_Was_Adolf's_Double

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:27 am

tony ingram wrote:Well, no. But we did have Hitler being kidnapped by mutant bounty hunters from the future.

(a) I still haven't read that one.
(b) Wulf Sternhammer is not a mutant.

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Post by tony ingram on Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:46 am

Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Well, no. But we did have Hitler being kidnapped by mutant bounty hunters from the future.

(a) I still haven't read that one.
(b) Wulf Sternhammer is not a mutant.
Johnny and Wulf were not the only Strontium Dogs involved in The Schicklgruber Grab.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:11 am

See (a) Razz

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Post by MajorHoy on Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:37 pm

tony ingram wrote:Johnny and Wulf were not the only Strontium Dogs involved in The Schicklgruber Grab.
And for some reason, I always thought there was an "N" in there.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:39 pm

Ah, we all know Americans can't spell   

Only joking!

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Post by tony ingram on Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:40 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Johnny and Wulf were not the only Strontium Dogs involved in The Schicklgruber Grab.
And for some reason, I always thought there was an "N" in there.
There are two 'n's in 'Johnny'...

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:44 pm

What about Joni Mitchell?

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