Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

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Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by Hourglass on Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:32 pm

Has the role of the villian changed over the years?
For example. do villians now require justification or a back story as to why they do the things they do?
Do they still represent various real world hostile forces (like the Nazis)
Are they purely to give the hero a rival?

What are your thoughts?

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by felneymike on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:11 pm

Yes and it's crap. I prefer the old ones who were nasty foreigners and/or twisted by pure greed with only the very rare "deep" ones to keep things interesting. When they are all "deep" it's just boring.

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by GBF on Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:31 am

Agreed - you can't beat a little "I want to rule the world because...I WANT TO, so there!!!!"

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by felneymike on Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:24 pm

Probably why PJ Maybe is so great... he's a non-deep villain disguised as a deep one, his only real aim is to be the best serial killer ever.

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:50 am

felneymike wrote:Probably why PJ Maybe is so great... he's a non-deep villain disguised as a deep one, his only real aim is to be the best serial killer ever.
I've never been sure about PJ's motivations. If that's all there is too it, why does he always end up in positions of power?

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by MajorHoy on Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:21 am

Hourglass wrote:Has the role of the villian changed over the years?
For example. do villians now require justification or a back story as to why they do the things they do?
Do they still represent various real world hostile forces (like the Nazis)
Are they purely to give the hero a rival?

What are your thoughts?
I wonder if the motives and methods of the "heroes" may have undergone a bigger change, which may have than caused changes in the role of the villains.

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by tony ingram on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:14 am

Heroes often aren't very heroic anymore. And the notion of the concerned private citizen fighting for justice appears to have been supplanted by costumed soldiers fighting a war or pursuing private vendettas. That's how it seems to me, anyway.

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Re: Has the role of the villain changed over the years?

Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:24 am

tony ingram wrote:I've never been sure about PJ's motivations. If that's all there is too it, why does he always end up in positions of power?
Good point. For him, serial killing is a means as well as an end.

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