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Let's Kill Hitler

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:27 pm

That... wasn't as bad as I was expecting. It's a grudging thumbs up from me.

The Silence's brainwashing techniques are pretty crap, aren't they? (Or perhaps Mr Moffat was making a Deep Philosophical Point about free will.)

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Post by felneymike on Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:21 pm

*Vomit*

Next one looks good, though!

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:54 am

Poll now added, thanks Lucy for starting the thread!

Anyway, from me-'Very good'. A total shift in tone from the last episode, but they seem to delight in confounding viewers' expectations. I do like the way Rory has developed as a character, the scene where he decks the Nazi was brilliant...

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Post by codywillis1 on Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:26 am

I'm not voting till I've seen it again or I'll only make an ass of myself again. Wink

As of now... middling. A lot to like, but plenty to dislike too, namely how rushed a lot of it seemed. My favourite bits were the flashbacks actually - always great to see little Amelia, and the Amy-realises-Rory-likes-her scene was frickin' hilarious.

Had me struggling to keep up at times, though, so another viewing is definitely in order to figure out what I actually think of it.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:30 am

The Amy/Rory realization was hilarious, I agree. "How long have we known each other? Twelve years? I've seen you nearly every day. And in all that time, name one girl you've ever paid any attention to!"

Rory exits, embarrassed.

Cue stunned look. Very Happy

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:57 pm

Little Amelia was very good. I didn't like how rushed parts of the episode seemed - all that silly business switching guns around - and how River was obsessed with her clothes, weight and sex appeal. I'd be ashamed if my daughter was that shallow.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:06 pm

Ah, but your daughter wouldn't be that shallow...

So, you were annoyed at her shallowness but not alarmed by her apparent psychosis? Razz

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:19 pm

She was raised by a cult, so the psychosis was a very realistic part of her character. In fact, I was kind of confused that she switched from homicide mode to altruism mode so quickly - which is why I said that the Silence's brainwashing is crap. I don't think they meant for her to sacrifice all her regenerations to bring him back from the dead...

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:32 pm

Maybe their programming effectively ended when she'd 'killed' him?

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:29 pm

Okay, I can swallow that. Suspension of disbelief and whatnot.

Isn't Wee Amelia awesome? Very Happy

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:32 pm

Young Caitlin has a future in acting, I'm sure.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:04 pm

What was it that the Doctor whispered to River as he was dying?

(Ooh, I do like having new Who to talk about...)

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:07 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:What was it that the Doctor whispered to River as he was dying?

(Ooh, I do like having new Who to talk about...)
No, I'm fairly certain that wasn't what he was whispering...

I'm guessing it was "Get me out of this, you bitch-and don't let your mum and dad know I said that! In case you hadn't noticed, this show's called 'Doctor Who', so if I snuff it your fifteen minutes of fame are up!"

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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:37 am

A simple 'I don't know' would have sufficed Razz

If River is the child of the Tardis, does that mean she has a father and two mothers?

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:39 am

Lucy McGough wrote:A simple 'I don't know' would have sufficed Razz

If River is the child of the Tardis, does that mean she has a father and two mothers?
Yes. They are a very progressive family.

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Post by codywillis1 on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:29 am

Isn't that polygamy or something?

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:41 am

codywillis1 wrote:Isn't that polygamy or something?
It's definitely something!

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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:29 am

It would only be polygamy if Rory and the Tardis were married. Which they aren't.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:40 am

Lucy McGough wrote:It would only be polygamy if Rory and the Tardis were married. Which they aren't.
Hey, they may have gotten hitched while the series was off-air! Anything's possible in Who, these days!

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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:48 am

They must've done it when they were in Utah. I think polygamy's legal there.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:53 am

Lucy McGough wrote:They must've done it when they were in Utah. I think polygamy's legal there.
Even with transdimensional cuboid constructs?

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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:04 pm

It's Utah. They're all mental.

(Apart from Scot Ferre. He's nice.)

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:07 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:It's Utah. They're all mental.

(Apart from Scot Ferre. He's nice.)
For a Mormon...

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Re: Let's Kill Hitler

Post by GBF on Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:32 pm

That was excellent; I really enjoyed it. Just to upset Lucy (which is easy!) I think Alex Kingston is gorgeous - a little on the large side for my taste, but she has a lovely face and hair.
Down side ('cos there has to be one):
1) Why did Hitler speak English?
2) Why did Hitler have the wrong pistol? He should have had the Luger the guard had in the courtyard!
3) The Numskulls have been updated after 50 years - at last!
4) 'A single Question to define the meaning of the Universe'...hmm - read that one somewhere else.
5 For all you less than eagle eyed out there - the actor who played the German officer the machine took over at the start played a German Officer in Band of Brothers...
Otherwise - EXCELLENT!

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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:59 pm

GBF wrote:That was excellent; I really enjoyed it. Just to upset Lucy (which is easy!) I think Alex Kingston is gorgeous - a little on the large side for my taste, but she has a lovely face and hair.
It's not easy to upset me, so there Razz

She is not "on the large side", but she does have a lovely face and hair. It's River Song in this particular episode I have a problem with, not Alex Kingston - and not even River Song in other episodes.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:07 pm

GBF wrote:That was excellent; I really enjoyed it. Just to upset Lucy (which is easy!) I think Alex Kingston is gorgeous - a little on the large side for my taste, but she has a lovely face and hair.
Down side ('cos there has to be one):
1) Why did Hitler speak English?
For the same reason that everyone else the Doctor and his friends meet speaks English even on other planets; the TARDIS translates the local language telepathically for them. This was first established way back in 1976!

2) Why did Hitler have the wrong pistol? He should have had the Luger the guard had in the courtyard!
I noticed that. Hitler had a Webley, didn't he? Seemed a bit unlikely...

3) The Numskulls have been updated after 50 years - at last!
Actually, since the aliens seemed to be piloting the whole body and not just the head, I think it was more like Ken Reid's 'The Nervs'.

4) 'A single Question to define the meaning of the Universe'...hmm - read that one somewhere else.
Forty Two!

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Post by codywillis1 on Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:03 am

On second viewing, I thought it was pretty poor actually. One of those "If we run around shouting VERY loudly it'll be HILARIOUS!" episodes.

Which never are. Wink

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:06 am

codywillis1 wrote:On second viewing, I thought it was pretty poor actually. One of those "If we run around shouting VERY loudly it'll be HILARIOUS!" episodes.

Which never are. Wink
I thought it was funny. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:23 pm

tony ingram wrote:I thought it was funny. Crying or Very sad
I'd prefer it if I could watch it with a fan, like you. I watched it with my Dad and he didn't have a clue what was going on because of Moffat's intricate plotting.

I can't think of any bits that made me laugh out loud, but it was a fairly enjoyable romp.

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:30 pm

Not even "shut up, Hitler"?

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Post by alanultron5 on Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:33 pm

Sorry I can't comment on it-but i'll be here for comments/views on the next episode!

I never got time to answer Tony's query about Addy & Hermy etc! All for `em! and `I.T.M.A` etc! This country needed these to help keep spirits up in a very dark time!

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:39 pm

Yes, strips lampooning evil, corrupt dictators at a time when the country was living in terror of what they'd do next!

2000AD dd much the same in 1997 with B.L.A.I.R 1...

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Re: Let's Kill Hitler

Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:53 pm

tony ingram wrote:Not even "shut up, Hitler"?
Oh, just ignore me. I'm in a bad mood Smile

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