What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

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What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by tony ingram on Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:30 am

The latest DC character to be reimagined (read: made totally unrecognizable) appears to be Uncle Sam. Formerly, the living embodiement of America in the form of that top hatted bloke from the famous WWII era posters, Sam (revealed in Human Bomb #1 to be the guy assembling a new team of Freedom Fighters) is now...a black guy in a suit, who seems to be a Government agent of some kind. Is it just me, or is this rather missing the point of the character?

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by Mbast1 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:06 pm

tony ingram wrote:who seems to be a Government agent of some kind. Is it just me, or is this rather missing the point of the character?

Yeah, I'm hardly a right-wing government hater type, but he was supposed to represent all that was good about America, and was supposed to be above working for the government.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by Sam_Vimes on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:35 am

Yeah, I always thought he was kind of similar to Captain America in that he REPRESENTED America, but didn't work for them. Maybe they're setting him up to die and be reincarnated as a more traditional Uncle Sam, or something. That's a thing he does, right? Maybe this is his new origin story.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by tony ingram on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:46 am

Sam_Vimes wrote:Yeah, I always thought he was kind of similar to Captain America in that he REPRESENTED America, but didn't work for them. Maybe they're setting him up to die and be reincarnated as a more traditional Uncle Sam, or something. That's a thing he does, right? Maybe this is his new origin story.
I think you might be being just a little bit overoptimistic there, Commander...

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:43 am

DC: "Why should Marvel have a monopoly on Samuel L Jackson? We want him too!"

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by Sam_Vimes on Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:53 am

tony ingram wrote:I think you might be being just a little bit overoptimistic there, Commander...

I'm also pretty sure Jack Kirby's going to draw it and that the fifth issue will contain the meaning of life.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by tony ingram on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:24 am

It'll be out the same week as Daredevil/Bullseye: The Target #2...

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by Sam_Vimes on Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:39 pm

tony ingram wrote:It'll be out the same week as Daredevil/Bullseye: The Target #2...

Really? Oh boy, I can't wait!

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by Sam_Vimes on Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:42 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:DC: "Why should Marvel have a monopoly on Samuel L Jackson? We want him too!"

I do believe we've found the correct answer.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by tony ingram on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:30 pm

Sam_Vimes wrote:
tony ingram wrote:It'll be out the same week as Daredevil/Bullseye: The Target #2...

Really? Oh boy, I can't wait!
That's unfortunate.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by BluesShark on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:28 am

It's a huge shame - J&J used to be one of the more reliable writing teams at DC but the Phantom Lady mini was utter pish so I didn't bother with Human Bomb.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:45 am

I actually feel (probably rather irrationally) disappointed with these guys, and with James Robinson, for how easily they seem to have abandoned the Golden Age characters and histories. I thought they genuinely appreciated them, but I guess it's just about the money, after all.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by BluesShark on Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:05 pm

One doesn't negate the other, though.

I think there was enough evidence in their Free dom Fighter run that J&J do love the original characters but like the rest of us they have to eat and comic writing isn't a big world.

Same applies to James Robinson. He didn't do Starman out of hate...


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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:51 pm

I know that, on an intellectual level. Doesn't stop me resenting them for it, though.

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Re: What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?

Post by MajorHoy on Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:49 am

Sam_Vimes wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I think you might be being just a little bit overoptimistic there, Commander...

I'm also pretty sure Jack Kirby's going to draw it and that the fifth issue will contain the meaning of life.
The Meaning of Life? Is that anything like the Secret of Life?


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