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Rate 'Cold War'

Post by tony ingram on Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:36 pm

Just an hour and a half until this episode airs, so I thought I'd set this thread up early. I'm looking forward to this one... Very Happy


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Re: Rate 'Cold War'

Post by tony ingram on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:00 pm

A nice, uncomplicated 'siege' storyline which made good use of the Ice Warriors (and I liked the unmasked Warrior, very effective). Clara is growing on me, too. And David Warner was great as the Ultravox loving Professor. A definite improvement on last week!

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Post by BluesShark on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:39 pm

Fantastic stuff and did away with RTD's ridiculous continuity wrecking howler from Waters of Mars.

Slowly but surely every piece of his continuity altering bobbins is being done away with. Roll on Nightmare in Silver which hopefully puts the Cybusmen to bed for good and all.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:43 pm

BluesShark wrote:Fantastic stuff and did away with RTD's ridiculous continuity wrecking howler from Waters of Mars.

Slowly but surely every piece of his continuity altering bobbins is being done away with. Roll on Nightmare in Silver which hopefully puts the Cybusmen to bed for good and all.
Actually, I'm not sure there was any continuity conflict with Waters of Mars: didn't the Doctor mention the Ice Warriors in that episode? I think the idea is that by that time, the Warriors had relocated to other worlds.

WOM was a deathly dull episode, though...

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Post by BluesShark on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:45 pm

I actually like Waters of Mars (it's easily the best of the stand alone specials imo) but it definitely implies the Ice Warriors were extinct, not just scattered.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:46 pm

BluesShark wrote:I actually like Waters of Mars (it's easily the best of the stand alone specials imo) but it definitely infers the Ice Warriors were extinct, not just scattered.
Ah, right. I'd say "I'll have to watch it again" but, y'know, it's by RTD and has Tennant in it, so...

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:20 am

'Waters of Mars' was not dull! There were scary water monsters running around trying to kill people! Another good 'base under siege' story, in fact.

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Post by codywillis1 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:48 pm

Waters of Mars was considerably superior to THIS dullathon.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:45 am

I wouldn't go so far as to describe 'Cold War' as "dull," although the ending was a bit weedy.

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Post by tony ingram on Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:52 am

I thought it was anything but dull! Very tense ad exciting throughout, as far as I was concerned. And unlike WOM, it did have Ice Warriors and didn't have David Tennant, which are both definite pluses.

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Post by karatattoo on Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:35 pm

I'm always interested when a monster, race, or individual from the original program returns.

I love seeing the modern interpretation and Skaldak didn't disappoint. No more clumsy shuffling about, no more soft, whispery voice you can barely understand (this seemed to be a common occurrence during the show's original run).

I thought having Skaldak out of his armor was brilliant. It was a first, even the Doctor said so!

A full, animatronic body had been built, but it was only seen sparingly, which I think heightened the suspense and menace.

One shortcoming that is often seen on Doctor Who, although other programs have done it as well, is that with most alien races only one gender is usually seen. This can be justified with the Sontarans, which are a sexless clone race and the Cybermen, where gender indentity and anatomical traits are removed (are the Daleks a genderless race?).

In Cold War Skaldak refers to his daughter several times. The next time the Ice Warriors show up I hope we finally see  what the women look like.

An excellent episode.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:18 pm

I agree with most of that, but I actually liked the original "oh dear, I have space laryngitis" voices. Then again, I also liked the original Tenth Planet Cyberman voices...

Do you know, I think you may be the first person in fifty years to ask if the Daleks have gender?

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:14 pm

It's a VERY good question. I reckon they don't.

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Post by karatattoo on Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:09 pm

tony ingram wrote:...I also liked the original Tenth Planet Cyberman voices...

I've always liked those voices too. I'd like hear a modern version of them in the current series.


tony ingram wrote:Do you know, I think you may be the first person in fifty years to ask if the Daleks have gender?

Score one for me!!! Very Happy

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:47 am

Lucy McGough wrote:It's a VERY good question. I reckon they don't.
I hope not. I really don't want to think about Dalek sex.

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Post by karatattoo on Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:05 pm

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:It's a VERY good question. I reckon they don't.
I hope not. I really don't want to think about Dalek sex.

EWWW!!! Shocked 

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:32 pm

And now we're ALL thinking about it  Twisted Evil

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:51 pm

Well, I didn't start it...

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:26 pm

I reckon the Daleks are all male, or else they'd have conquered the universe by now.

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Post by karatattoo on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:09 pm

tony ingram wrote:Well, I didn't start it...

I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be kinky or anything. Embarassed 

I also know what you're thinking: Damned American!!


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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:35 pm

You kinky, kinky Americans Very Happy

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