Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

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Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:27 pm

Writers, artists, letterers, etc. Seems like the Yanks get treated worse than Tharg's artbots. They're there to make Marvel/DC money, and if they don't like how they're treated they can either submit or quit. Or am I unfairly stereotyping US working conditions?

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Post by Mbast1 on Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:58 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Or am I unfairly stereotyping US working conditions?

I can only say from what I've read, although I've been reading about it for decades, but it certainly seems like it. It's seemed very much to be a tenant farmhand analogy, rather than an actually creative one since the beginning though.

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Re: Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

Post by tony ingram on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:47 pm

The British comics industry used to have a pretty poor reputation asfar as creators rights went, but people like Pat Mills, John Wagner and Dez Skinn helped changed all that in the 70s and 80s. And then, of course, the US industry started opening up to British talent, so popular creators were in a stronger position here at home, to an extent.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:47 am

tony ingram wrote:The British comics industry used to have a pretty poor reputation asfar as creators rights went, but people like Pat Mills, John Wagner and Dez Skinn helped changed all that in the 70s and 80s.
Well, at least the British are doing something right  Very Happy 

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:51 am

It took awhile. Until 2000AD arrived, pretty much no British creator was allowed to even be credited for their work. In that respect, at that time, we were about twenty years behind the US comics industry. But the arrival of Warrior in 1982 really seems to have shaken up people's thinking.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:52 am

tony ingram wrote:It took awhile. Until 2000AD arrived, pretty much no British creator was allowed to even be credited for their work.  
That is so weird. If it were still like that today, nobody would know who Alan Moore is  Shocked 

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:56 am

Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:It took awhile. Until 2000AD arrived, pretty much no British creator was allowed to even be credited for their work.  
That is so weird. If it were still like that today, nobody would know who Alan Moore is  Shocked 
In the very early days of his career, we didn't anyway; he used a number of pen names including, notably, 'Curt Vile'.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:58 am

Curt???? I've gone right off him now.

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Re: Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:00 am

So, the part of the name "Curt Vile" that you have an issue with is "Curt". Interesting.  Laughing 

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Re: Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:04 am

Yeah, 'cos... I mean, come on! Curt???? It's almost as bad as being called Hiram J. Thickburger III.

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Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:05 am

You've upset Hiram, now. No wonder he never posts here when you're around.  Crying or Very sad 

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Re: Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:09 am

...Still, it must be hard working in comics. I mean, do they even get pensions?

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Re: Are British comic workers treated better than American ones?

Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:11 am

Not unless they have a private pension plan, no. Most creators have always been freelancers.

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