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The Last War in Albion

Post by Lucy McGough on Tue May 06, 2014 12:43 pm

Someone's doing a blog about the rivalry between Grant Morrison and Alan Moore:

http://www.philipsandifer.com/p/the-last-war-in-albion.html

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Post by tony ingram on Tue May 06, 2014 1:10 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Someone's doing a blog about the rivalry between Grant Morrison and Alan Moore:

http://www.philipsandifer.com/p/the-last-war-in-albion.html
Interesting. Though I think Morrison is the only one who's treating it as a war: Moore seems largely indifferent to him.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue May 06, 2014 7:04 pm

Apparently Moore has asked that people who buy Morrison's work not buy his work.

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Post by Mbast1 on Thu May 08, 2014 8:29 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Someone's doing a blog about the rivalry between Grant Morrison and Alan Moore:

You know, this all seems to be part of the cult of celebrity/brand thing people seem to obsessed with. I love Moore's work, but I also love Morrison's. I have, to my own shame, read some of this bickering and Morrison comes out of it looking really bad. But, I don't much care, I care about their work. I think Moore is an interesting person from his interviews, but why should that matter in regards to his work?
I don't know, it all seems so High-school, to me. I don't see any reason I should pick sides.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri May 09, 2014 6:56 am

If forced, I would be on Moore's side as he's a better writer, a more interesting person, and not an egomaniac.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Fri May 09, 2014 7:48 am

And because he has a beard.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri May 09, 2014 11:00 am

Lucy McGough wrote:And because he has a beard.
That, too.

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Post by Mbast1 on Fri May 16, 2014 6:34 pm

tony ingram wrote:If forced, I would be on Moore's side as he's a better writer, a more interesting person, and not an egomaniac.

As would I, to be honest, but I won't accept that I should be forced. I have two local comics shops, and because of how they started (one was formerly owned by a chain, and run by a manager I like, but was bought out by another employee who is ALSO someone I like and the former manager had to start his own store) they do NOT get along. And I've heard that some customers have been told (rumors all) that if they shop at that "other store" they can't shop at "this one", by BOTH owners. Now, I don't talk about it to them, but I shop at both, because I have loyalty to both for different reasons. But, if one of them forced me to choose, I would be done with that shop without a thought. And, while I respect Mr. Moore's choice to say his fans shouldn't read Morrison (if he did) I don't see any reason I should follow it. I make my own choices.


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Post by Mbast1 on Fri May 16, 2014 6:37 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:And because he has a beard.

I also have a beard and long hair. But, not as good as his!

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Post by tony ingram on Fri May 16, 2014 6:38 pm

I'm not actually sure Moore ever made that statement, anyway-or if he did, that he meant it quite that way. It doesn't sound like the kind of attitude I'd expect from him.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri May 16, 2014 6:38 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:And because he has a beard.

I also have a beard and long hair. But, not as good as his!
Me, too!
Well, the beard, anyway. And I do need a haircut.

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Post by Mbast1 on Fri May 16, 2014 6:40 pm

tony ingram wrote:I'm not actually sure Moore ever made that statement, anyway-or if he did, that he meant it quite that way. It doesn't sound like the kind of attitude I'd expect from him.

yeah, that's the problem with the internet.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri May 16, 2014 6:42 pm

I wish that was the only problem with the internet...

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Post by Mbast1 on Sun May 18, 2014 1:55 am

tony ingram wrote:I wish that was the only problem with the internet...

Too true.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun May 18, 2014 8:22 am

It's just something Philip Sandifer said. Dunno if it's true or not. Could be, though. Moore's imperfect, same as the rest of us.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 18, 2014 8:31 am

Lucy McGough wrote:It's just something Philip Sandifer said. Dunno if it's true or not. Could be, though. Moore's imperfect, same as the rest of us.
I suppose. It just sounds like the kind of comment that could have been miquoted or taken out of context, which is something that seems to happen quite often with Moore, mostly because journalists like to make him sound insane.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sun May 18, 2014 8:40 am

Yeah, could just be Dr Sandifer's dodgy memory.

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Post by Mbast1 on Fri May 23, 2014 7:53 pm

tony ingram wrote:which is something that seems to happen quite often with Moore, mostly because journalists like to make him sound insane.

That and the contingent of fans who hate him, and will misquote him on purpose.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri May 23, 2014 8:28 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:which is something that seems to happen quite often with Moore, mostly because journalists like to make him sound insane.

That and the contingent of fans who hate him, and will misquote him on purpose.
Yes. Seemingly mostly because he refuses to write mediocre superhero stories for Marvel or DC.

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Post by Mbast1 on Fri May 23, 2014 11:12 pm

tony ingram wrote:Yes. Seemingly mostly because he refuses to write mediocre superhero stories for Marvel or DC.

True. What's really odd about it is they'll deny that vehemently if you directly question it, but if you listen to (read, really) what they say at other times, that is ALWAYS their issue with him. The rest of it seems to be rationalizing their hatred.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 24, 2014 7:18 am

I think some of these people basically just can't cope with Moore's writing, or with anything more challenging than the latest issue of Final Crisis of the Secret Civil War of Armageddon 2001, or whatever, and just want to stamp out comics that are hard for them to understand because they require actual thought. Or am I being elitist?  Twisted Evil 

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat May 24, 2014 7:46 am

Nah, that sounds about right.

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Post by Sam_Vimes on Sat May 24, 2014 3:46 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:If forced, I would be on Moore's side as he's a better writer, a more interesting person, and not an egomaniac.

As would I, to be honest, but I won't accept that I should be forced. I have two local comics shops, and because of how they started (one was formerly owned by a chain, and run by a manager I like, but was bought out by another employee who is ALSO someone I like and the former manager had to start his own store) they do NOT get along. And I've heard that some customers have been told (rumors all) that if they shop at that "other store" they can't shop at "this one", by BOTH owners. Now, I don't talk about it to them, but I shop at both, because I have loyalty to both for different reasons. But, if one of them forced me to choose, I would be done with that shop without a thought. And, while I respect Mr. Moore's choice to say his fans shouldn't read Morrison (if he did) I don't see any reason I should follow it. I make my own choices.

This is exactly how I feel about it. Moore's obviously better, but I don't care who he likes/doesn't like. It's not like we're best friends, or anything.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 25, 2014 8:33 am

Fortunately for me, I'm not really a big fan of most of Morrison's stuff, so in the unlikely event that Alan walked into Central City Comics when I was there, he'd be even more unlikely to catch me out.

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