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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:05 am

On another board where I was trying to discuss American heroes wearing red, white and blue for my country's Flag Day (June 14th), Tony made this "helpful" post:
tony ingram wrote: . . . the real red, white and blue should be ...





So, how about it? British heroes in US, British, or other publications that invoke a patriotic / national flavor?

Two others to consider:



and what about
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:45 am

Please can we not consider the Beefeater. Ever again. Please?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:57 am

Why are they all male?
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Re: Britain's National Heroes (in US, British, and other publications)

Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:07 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Why are they all male?
Well, I think there was Britannia in Flare from Heroic Publications.



And would Iron Lady from Batman Inc. count?

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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:23 pm

Definitely! But Britannia's physiology looks extremely unrealistic.
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:03 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Definitely! But Britannia's physiology looks extremely unrealistic.
I take it you never read any of Heroic's comic books?



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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:25 pm

Oh. I see Sad
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:38 pm

tony ingram wrote:Please can we not consider the Beefeater. Ever again. Please?
Didn't Grant Morrison use him in Batman, Inc.?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:07 pm

Yet another reason to side with Alan Moore in the great war Very Happy
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:32 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Yet another reason to side with Alan Moore in the great war Very Happy
Has his beard been declared a protected national treasure yet?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:41 pm

It's surely only a matter of time. Area of outstanding natural beauty?
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:49 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:It's surely only a matter of time. Area of outstanding natural beauty?
I was thinking more as harsh, uninhabitable but unique environment . . . but whatever.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:54 pm

Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty is an official designation in this country, whereas... what you said... isn't. At least, not yet.
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:12 am

Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero. But Ireland did have Shamrock. Until she retired to become a hairdresser.
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Re: Britain's National Heroes (in US, British, and other publications)

Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:46 am

tony ingram wrote:Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero.

So there's a vacancy... it could be me!
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:47 am

Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero.

So there's a vacancy... it could be me!
Start sewing that uniform!
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:58 am

I can't sew. You do it.
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:11 am

Any superhero worth their salt should be able to sew their own costume. Peter Parker did.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:59 am

I bet Bruce Wayne got Alfred to do his for him.

I might be able to manage some sort of shapeless burka decorated with the Union Jack, to celebrate our multicultural identity and be, like, vibrant.
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:54 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:I bet Bruce Wayne got Alfred to do his for him.

I might be able to manage some sort of shapeless burka decorated with the Union Jack, to celebrate our multicultural identity and be, like, vibrant.
How about just spray painting a sack?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:37 pm

I'd be a good example of Austerity Britain.
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Post by MajorHoy on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:21 pm

tony ingram wrote:Any superhero worth their salt should be able to sew their own costume. Peter Parker did.
So did the Spectre, and he was dead!  Shocked 

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:25 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Any superhero worth their salt should be able to sew their own costume. Peter Parker did.
So did the Spectre, and he was dead!  Shocked 

See, now that is the kind of dedication a superhero needs to have!
Umm...though couldn't he just have manipulated his ectoplasmic form to achieve exactly the same effect?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:19 pm

Maybe all his brain cells died too?
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:21 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Maybe all his brain cells died too?
Logically, that would be the case, yes. But that's no excuse for being bloody stupid.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:35 pm

He needed a project to take his mind off being dead. It was occupational therapy.
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Post by karatattoo on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:42 pm

tony ingram wrote:Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero.

If so, wouldn't she be called Union Jill? Razz 

For a brief time there was Kelsey Leigh as Lionheart. Would she count, maybe as a Union Jack variant?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:52 pm

So long as you don't insist she should be called Lionessheart...
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Post by karatattoo on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:03 pm

Lionessheart?

I like it!!

Seriously, I've never cared for these so-called feminine versions of names. I think it subordinates the female gender.

If you look up "Lioness" in the dictionary it would say that it is a female lion, but if you looked at the definition of "Lion," it would not say "a male lioness."

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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:07 pm

YES! You are so right!
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Post by karatattoo on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:16 pm

Of course I'm right!!!

I'm male!!! 
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:27 pm

Go away Razz
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Post by karatattoo on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:33 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Go away Razz

 Crying or Very sad 
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:14 am

Oh, dear lord, are we going to get so into being politically correct that you can't say "woman" because there's the "man" in the word, or "person" because "son" is in the word?  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:23 am

karatattoo wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero.

If so, wouldn't she be called Union Jill? Razz 

For a brief time there was Kelsey Leigh as Lionheart. Would she count, maybe as a Union Jack variant?
I had completely forgotten Lionheart. I think Marvel have, too.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:14 am

MajorHoy wrote:Oh, dear lord, are we going to get so into being politically correct that you can't say "woman" because there's the "man" in the word, or "person" because "son" is in the word?  Rolling Eyes 

What? What kind of numpty says that?
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:29 am

MajorHoy wrote:Oh, dear lord, are we going to get so into being politically correct that you can't say "woman" because there's the "man" in the word, or "person" because "son" is in the word?  Rolling Eyes 

I suppose "wo-per" could be an alternative...
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:32 am

Are you actually drunk?
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:03 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Are you actually drunk?
Nosh yetsh.
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:56 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:Oh, dear lord, are we going to get so into being politically correct that you can't say "woman" because there's the "man" in the word, or "person" because "son" is in the word?  Rolling Eyes 
What? What kind of numpty says that?
Have you ever read a humor (or, if you prefer, "humour" for Tony) book called Politically Correct Bedtime Stories?  Wink 

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:58 pm

I now really want to read that book.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:50 pm

I've read it. It wasn't that funny.
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:43 pm

karatattoo wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero.

If so, wouldn't she be called Union Jill? Razz 
Union Jacquie would probably work better, though.
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:45 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
karatattoo wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Thinking about it, I don't think there's ever been a significant Union Jack wearing female hero.

If so, wouldn't she be called Union Jill? Razz 
Union Jacquie would probably work better, though.
How did the original Union Jack's daughter miss that one? Her name was Jacquie!
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Post by MajorHoy on Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:36 pm

Maybe we should also include the "Knights as Superheroes" as being representative of the glory of Britain?

There was Knight and Squire from Batman




and also from DC, Lionheart


Marvel had Sir Steel and Silver Squire in the Freedom's Five.


There was also a Sir Steel with the U.N. Force (not from Marvel) back in 1993.


And, of course, the Knights of Pendragon from Marvel U.K.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:53 pm

My friend Charlie's written a comic about a superhero called British Steel.
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