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Alas, Poor Archie

Post by tony ingram on Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:11 pm

It seems that even the immortal Archie Andrews is not immune to changing times. After decades of wholesome, innocent adventures in a smalltown America that hadn't changed since the 1950s, he and his friends are about to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century and made "relevant" to today's teens. Cue angst and heartache and socially responsible storylines, no doubt...and exit at least one longtime reader. Sad

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by Mbast1 on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:03 pm

tony ingram wrote:It seems that even the immortal Archie Andrews is not immune to changing times.

I've been reading off and on for a long time. My interest was re-ignited about Archie through a fan-fiction story (Maybe the Last Archie Story, by Darkmark) about 10 years ago, and I've been back reading more since.
I actually think this is a positive step. Comics in general (American comics) have been stuck in the past for too long, and only appealed to a small corps of regular readers. And those readers have been dying off or losing interest (as sales numbers seem to indicate) for years. So trying new things is not only often fun, but it seems necessary if the publishers want to survive. If you're not trying to appeal to new people, eventually you're going to stop selling at all.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by tony ingram on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:26 pm

I can see the logic of that, but I still find it depressing. I've stuck with Archie because it was effectively the last traditional humour comics line and the last line of comics that still felt like the ones I grew up with (in the US market, anyway; I still occasionally read the Beano and Commando for the same reason, they're now effectively the last outpost of traditional British comics, since 2000 AD "grew up"). I think with the passing of that kind of storytelling, comics have lost something.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by MajorHoy on Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:13 pm

I'll wait and see what the "new" Archie is like before I start moaning about the loss of the old one.

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Post by Mbast1 on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:30 pm

tony ingram wrote:and the last line of comics that still felt like the ones I grew up with

I get that, I just think that can't sustain a market.
I think I got "past" wanting that (or thinking I was going to get it) when Crisis on Infinite Earths killed off the DC multiverse I loved. I think it was then that I realized the publishers will do whatever it takes to sell books. Their job, I know, but it killed something I'd loved.
But, once I realized that, that it could all change with no notice, I think I started to realize it could still be fun. Sure, I'd never get new stories of the Bronze-Age Superman (my favorite), but I could re-read the ones I had. AND, I'd get to see new things. Which I love, newness is what keeps me looking at American Superhero comics. Which I know makes no sense considering how little actually changes but I keep looking.
Anyway, I'm sorry this doesn't seem to work for you, but they may keep publishing SOME version of the Archie you love.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by tony ingram on Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:37 am

Well, I guess there'll still be the digests.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:14 am

I thought that Archie was being killed off.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by tony ingram on Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:22 am

Lucy McGough wrote:I thought that Archie was being killed off.
Different continuity. Archie has multiple continuities running at once.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:28 am

Oh. Right. So he's simultaneously alive and dead, like the cat.

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by MajorHoy on Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:57 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Oh. Right. So he's simultaneously alive and dead, like the cat.
Or like the zombie dog?




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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by tony ingram on Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:43 am

For some reason, that scene really disturbed me...

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by Lucy McGough on Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:12 pm

That's horrible Sad

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Re: Alas, Poor Archie

Post by Mbast1 on Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:00 am

tony ingram wrote:For some reason, that scene really disturbed me...

For me, it was the dog's thoughts. Going from being willing to die to protect to this. Meant to be disturbing, and it was.

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