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Post by Lucy Ingram Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:53 pm

Mbast1 wrote:I always fall back to "Bob".
For which I blame Bob Newhart and Black Adder.

Fine. Call them both Bob Very Happy
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Post by tony ingram Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:23 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Their biggest drawbacks are their names. Why don't they get new names? I bet you guys could think of better ones.
For Plastique and Multiplex? I'd name them in the grand tradition of the Legion of Super-Heroes: Detonating Damsel and Duplicate Dumbo.
Or possibly Multiple Muppet.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:06 am

'Multiple Muppet' and 'Detonating Damsel'..... genius Very Happy
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Post by Mbast1 Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:25 am

tony ingram wrote:Am I being totally unrealistic in hoping that there might be more heroes on Earth 2 when Barry finally gets there? Hourman or Sandman, maybe?

There are definite hints, now that episodes are happening on E-2. It's still looking fun. And there's a HINT that things might not be as they appear with Jay! And, also that this multiverse includes the 1990 Flash, and the current Supergirl show!
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Post by tony ingram Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:02 am

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Am I being totally unrealistic in hoping that there might be more heroes on Earth 2 when Barry finally gets there? Hourman or Sandman, maybe?

There are definite hints, now that episodes are happening on E-2. It's still looking fun. And there's a HINT that things might not be as they appear with Jay! And, also that this multiverse includes the 1990 Flash, and the current Supergirl show!
The 90s version!!!? Goood grief. Jay had better not turn out to be a villain, though...
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Post by Mbast1 Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:16 pm

tony ingram wrote:The 90s version!!!? Goood grief. Jay had better not turn out to be a villain, though...

In the "tunnel" through which they traveled to E-2, you saw glimpses of other Earths, including one where the 90's version lived.

As to Jay, I wait to see what does happen, but it could turn out to be very interesting.
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Post by tony ingram Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:14 pm

I really wasn't impressed with this show when it started, but I must admit, it's drawn me in. A bit like Agents of SHIELD.
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Post by Mbast1 Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:59 pm

tony ingram wrote:I really wasn't impressed with this show when it started, but I must admit, it's drawn me in. A bit like Agents of SHIELD.

For me, AoS is like Once Upon a Time, where it's good a lot of the time, but then sometimes it's pretty boring.
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Post by tony ingram Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:45 pm

OK, somebody please tell me Jay Garrick is not actually Zoom...
I was convinced Jay was the man in the iron mask.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:51 pm

I'm Jay Garrick!
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Post by tony ingram Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:04 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:I'm Jay Garrick!
No! I'm Jay Garrick!
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Post by Lucy Ingram Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:31 pm

My mum's Jay Garrick!
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Post by tony ingram Wed May 18, 2016 8:53 am

OK, got it: Henry Allen rather less than subtly revealed that his mother's maiden name was Garrick. The man in the iron mask is indeed going to turn out to be the real Jay Garrick of Earth Two...and he will also turn out to be the Earth Two counterpart of Barry Allen's dad!
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Post by Lucy Ingram Wed May 18, 2016 11:03 am

Blimey. Do you need a PhD to watch this show?
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Post by tony ingram Wed May 18, 2016 11:23 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Blimey. Do you need a PhD to watch this show?
A Parallel Hooniverse Doctorate?
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Post by Lucy Ingram Thu May 19, 2016 3:36 pm

Do they call it a Hooniverse when it makes you wonder, "Hoo on Earth is that?"
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Post by Sam_Vimes Sun May 22, 2016 9:39 am

tony ingram wrote:OK, got it: Henry Allen rather less than subtly revealed that his mother's maiden name was Garrick. The man in the iron mask is indeed going to turn out to be the real Jay Garrick of Earth Two...and he will also turn out to be the Earth Two counterpart of Barry Allen's dad!

I reached the same conclusion. That would definitely make up for the Zoom thing.

Oh, and Tony, check out DC's Legends of Tomorrow if you haven't already. Or at least the last five minutes of the last episode.


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Post by tony ingram Sun May 22, 2016 10:57 am

Sam_Vimes wrote:
tony ingram wrote:OK, got it: Henry Allen rather less than subtly revealed that his mother's maiden name was Garrick. The man in the iron mask is indeed going to turn out to be the real Jay Garrick of Earth Two...and he will also turn out to be the Earth Two counterpart of Barry Allen's dad!

I reached the samer conclusion. That would definitely make up for the Zoom thing.

Oh, and Tony, check DC's Legends of Tomorrow if you haven't already. Or at least the last five minutes of the last episode.
I think we in the UK still have two weeks to go before the last episode, though I could be wrong.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Sun May 22, 2016 8:41 pm

A girl finds it too complicated.
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Post by Mbast1 Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:46 pm

tony ingram wrote:OK, got it: Henry Allen rather less than subtly revealed that his mother's maiden name was Garrick. The man in the iron mask is indeed going to turn out to be the real Jay Garrick of Earth Two...and he will also turn out to be the Earth Two counterpart of Barry Allen's dad!

Close, so very close. But I LOVED this ending. I really did. This season bothered me at first, but this so very much worked out for the better.
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Post by tony ingram Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:57 pm

It really did! Earth Two on TV is Earth Three from the comics and vice versa, so from the POV of comics fans the world we thought was Earth Two was the horrible, evil dominated Earth Three all along. Brilliant!
And I've just seen Flash's guest appearance on Supergirl, and loved that too!
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Post by tony ingram Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:46 pm

It appears the JSA will be appearing in DC's Legends of Tomorrow. Hopefully, with Jay!
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Post by Lucy Ingram Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:28 pm

tony ingram wrote:It appears the JSA will be appearing in DC's Legends of Tomorrow. Hopefully, with Jay!
We live in interesting times! Keep us updated.
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Post by tony ingram Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:31 am

Now confirmed that the title of the first episode of season three is 'Flashpoint'. Also, all the regulars are back, which I guess means that in the revised timeline, Earth One's Harrison Wells is still alive and hasn't been replaced by Thawne. Also, John Wesley Shipp will be seen as both Henry Allen and Jay Garrick.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:41 am

I'm currently reading Shakespeare's plays about Henry VI, which are basically all about the Wars of the Roses, where everybody is called Edward and keeps switching sides, and all the nobles are named after counties...

...but I swear the Flash television show is much more complicated!
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Post by tony ingram Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:43 am

Lucy McGough wrote:I'm currently reading Shakespeare's plays about Henry VI, which are basically all about the Wars of the Roses, where everybody is called Edward and keeps switching sides, and all the nobles are named after counties...

...but I swear the Flash television show is much more complicated!
Remind me to explain Hawkman's continuity to you, sometime...
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Post by Lucy Ingram Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:42 am

I don't think it counts as an explanation if the person you're talking to doesn't have the intellectual wherewithal to understand. It's more of a monologue.
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Post by Mbast1 Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:37 pm

tony ingram wrote:Now confirmed that the title of the first episode of season three is 'Flashpoint'

I didn't miuch like Flashpoint or its fallout, but given how much I like Flash, I'm hoping it'll be fun!
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Post by Mbast1 Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:51 pm

tony ingram wrote:Remind me to explain Hawkman's continuity to you, sometime...

I know it and it would give ME a headache listening...
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Post by tony ingram Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:44 am

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Remind me to explain Hawkman's continuity to you, sometime...

I know it and it would give ME a headache listening...

I think my favourite part was where, with Carter Hall missing, they turned Fel Andar into Carter Hall Jnr in order to explain the otherwise impossible presence of Katar Hol in stories set before he'd been reintroduced. I though DC's mission statement at the time was to simplify continuity... Laughing


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Post by Mbast1 Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:45 pm

tony ingram wrote:I think my favourite part was where, with Carter Hall missing, they turned Fel Andar into Carter Hall Jnr in order to explain the otherwise impossible presence of Katar Hol in stories set before he'd been reintroduced. I though DC's mission statement at the time was to simplify continuity... Laughing

Right! I only caught that later, in that I'd seen reference to it, but I went back to find the issues. I thought it was a clever way to deal with it, but yeah, what a mess.
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Post by tony ingram Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:28 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I think my favourite part was where, with Carter Hall missing, they turned Fel Andar into Carter Hall Jnr in order to explain the otherwise impossible presence of Katar Hol in stories set before he'd been reintroduced. I though DC's mission statement at the time was to simplify continuity... Laughing

Right! I only caught that later, in that I'd seen reference to it, but I went back to find the issues. I thought it was a clever way to deal with it, but yeah, what a mess.
See, I think a cleverer approach would have been to not create the problem in the first place. Why couldn't they just have stuck to the original plan and had the Hawkworld mini be a flashback story? Did we really need a reimagined version of a character who'd already been reimagined?
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Post by Mbast1 Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:33 pm

tony ingram wrote:See, I think a cleverer approach would have been to not create the problem in the first place. Why couldn't they just have stuck to the original plan and had the Hawkworld mini be a flashback story? Did we really need a reimagined version of a character who'd already been reimagined?

Well, sometimes you're stuck trying to make what's in front of you work. Yes, making Hawkworld the past would have been so much smarter, but I don't know who said no to that. Then the authors had to deal with it.
Plus, everyone has to be reimagined all the time...

Did you ever read Void Indigo? I have all the issues (the GN and the two issues published) but I've not read them. I read they were originally from a proposal for Hawkman, but I don't know how well done they are.


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Post by tony ingram Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:05 pm

I read the Void Indigo graphic novel, wasn't impressed, and never read the actual series. I was never aware that it was a proposed Hawkman pitch before today!
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