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Post by tony ingram on Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:29 am

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:It's now apparently been confirmed by DC that there will be a new Justice Society of America book out, probably later this year.

You may find this interesting:

http://www.cbr.com/nightwing-dc-multiverse/
Interesting indeed! And worth it just to see the Earth Two Robin suit again...
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Mbast1 on Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:40 pm

I broke my own rules and have read the Superman Reborn stuff. Not all of it, though I own it, but enough to know what's going on. And it's weird, not in a good way.

Spoiler:
They're saying, again, that the last "Crisis" (in the case Flashpoint) was flawed, and that it has to be "fixed". Is this really what DC is going to do now? Every few years claim the last restart was flawed and then do it again? Superman was split into 2, red and blue. The new52 version got the red energy, the pre-new52 version had the blue. Now they're one. Yeah, ok
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:40 pm

That's just confusing. I'm glad 2000 AD doesn't tend to mess around with the continuity of its strips like that. It's worse than that lass in Dallas or whatever who stepped out of the shower and found the previous few years were all a dream!
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Post by tony ingram on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:43 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:That's just confusing. I'm glad 2000 AD doesn't tend to mess around with the continuity of its strips like that.
>cough< Mark Millar's Robo-Hunter >cough<

And thank goodness it's not Friday... Laughing
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:49 pm

Well, quite. Okay. I said "doesn't tend to mess," not "never messes." Razz
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Post by tony ingram on Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:58 pm

There was also the story in which Dredd fought Hammerstein, who had been lying dormant in the Cursed Earth, suggesting that Dredd and the ABC Warriors were in the same universe despite the fact that this clearly isn't the case anywhere else.
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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:39 pm

tony ingram wrote:despite the fact that this clearly isn't the case anywhere else.

I remember there being Brave and the Bold stories that did this, had Batman in places (other Earths) and times where he wouldn't have been. Also, some of the DC/Marvel crossovers seem to take place on an Earth where both had always existed.
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Post by tony ingram on Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:20 pm

I think those are considered special cases. The B&B stories were supposedly set on Earth B, an Earth specifically created for continuity busting stories by Bob Haney, Murray Boltinoff and E. Nelson Bridwell.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:09 pm

tony ingram wrote:The B&B stories

Batman has to fight Lynda Snell and other punctilious landladies? 'Cos lemme tell you right now, Batman would be NO MATCH for Lynda Snell. He'd either retire hurt or end up starring in the Christmas panto.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:02 pm

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tony ingram wrote:The B&B stories

Batman has to fight Lynda Snell and other punctilious landladies? 'Cos lemme tell you right now, Batman would be NO MATCH for Lynda Snell. He'd either retire hurt or end up starring in the Christmas panto.
>Sigh< we're going to have to find a new acronym, aren't we?
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:49 pm

TBATB?
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Mbast1 on Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:10 pm

http://www.cbr.com/dc-final-flash-the-button-covers/

Something else you may find interesting.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Mbast1 on Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:11 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Batman has to fight Lynda Snell and other punctilious landladies? 'Cos lemme tell you right now, Batman would be NO MATCH for Lynda Snell. He'd either retire hurt or end up starring in the Christmas panto.

I need to brush up on my British. I do not get this at all!
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by tony ingram on Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:30 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Batman has to fight Lynda Snell and other punctilious landladies? 'Cos lemme tell you right now, Batman would be NO MATCH for Lynda Snell. He'd either retire hurt or end up starring in the Christmas panto.

I need to brush up on my British. I do not get this at all!
B&B, in Britain, is short for 'Bed and Breakfast', a (usually) fairly cheap boarding house which offers a bed for the night and just the one meal, and which often has to be vacated during the day. Lynda Snell is owner of such an establishment in long running BBC radio soap opera The Archers.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:37 am

Yet more little teasers cropping up around te DCU. In a recent issue of Nightwing, Dick Grayson sees a vision...possibly a hallucination, possibly not...of several alternate versions of himself, including the Robin of the original Earth-Two. Meanwhile, in the recenty concluded Justice League vs Suicide Squad series, we are told that the Emerald Empress has come back to the 21st century in order to ocate the Legion's Saturn Girl, and JSA villain Johnny Sorrow's living mask is whispering about a "lost Society". Just a few more weeks until we start to get some answers, it seems, in the forthcoming Batman/Flash crossover...
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Mbast1 on Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:25 pm

tony ingram wrote:Yet more little teasers cropping up around te DCU.

I am actually curious about where this is going. We shall see, I suppose.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by tony ingram on Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:50 am

I'm actually wondering if all the titles currently out are set in the same universe. Doom Patrol seems to be very firmly set in the same continuity as the last pre-reboot series. Cave Carson looks as though it's set on pre-Crisis Earth One, almost.
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Post by Mbast1 on Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:12 pm

tony ingram wrote:I'm actually wondering if all the titles currently out are set in the same universe. Doom Patrol seems to be very firmly set in the same continuity as the last pre-reboot series. Cave Carson looks as though it's set on pre-Crisis Earth One, almost.

I haven't been reading Cave Carson, but I keep thinking I might try. What about it makes you think it's on Earth-One?

I don't want to be tempted by DC, I don't...
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by tony ingram on Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:09 am

It just has that feel to it. And Cave keeps mentioning his meeting with Superman when he was with the Forgotten Heroes. And then there's the frankly odd backup strip with the Wondertwins...
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Mbast1 on Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:53 pm

tony ingram wrote:It just has that feel to it.

Cool. I may have to see if I can find all the issues and give them a try.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by tony ingram on Wed May 17, 2017 12:37 pm

My day has just been made by The Flash #22, the concluding part of the Flash/Batman crossover "The Button".  Barry Allen and Batman are rescued from the collapsing Flashpoint reality by someone who they don't know, but who does know them...


Sadly, it's a brief return as Jay is then snatched away again by their unknown enemy, but the closing pages promise more to come later this year in something ominously titled "The Doomsday Clock"...
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:59 pm

I was just reading about the next part of this, the Doomsday Clock mini. This just gets worse.
Alan Moore said a few years ago that DC was relying too much on this work from the 80's and people (fans and writers included) went ballistic.
And now they're strip-mining Watchmen to reset the entirety of DC's universe, multiverse and history.
Moore seems to have been right, and it's sad.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by tony ingram on Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:27 am

Moore is more often rright than wrong, in my experience.
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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:05 pm

tony ingram wrote:Moore is more often rright than wrong, in my experience.

I just find it funny how many writers attacked him as basically a cranky old man, when he was right. The new series even uses Watchmen's framework for layouts.
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Re: DC Rebirth: just another tease, or not?

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:34 am

Our current obsession with nostalgia (new Ghostbusters movie! New Jurassic Park movie! The ten billionth Rogue Trooper strip in 2000 AD!) is the death of originality.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:04 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Our current obsession with nostalgia (new Ghostbusters movie! New Jurassic Park movie! The ten billionth Rogue Trooper strip in 2000 AD!) is the death of originality.
People only become obsessed with nostalgia when the present day becomes too crappy to deal with.
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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:13 pm

But there are lots of good things about the present day too. And there were lots of bad things about the past.
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:16 am

Lucy McGough wrote:And there were lots of bad things about the past.
I know. I remember Disco. pale
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Post by Mbast1 on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:20 pm

tony ingram wrote:I know. I remember Disco. pale

I like disco...

That said, there were good things and bad things in the past. The best thing about the present, though, is that we can still see/hear/read the things of the past and move on from there.
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:25 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I know. I remember Disco. pale

I like disco...

That said, there were good things and bad things in the past. The best thing about the present, though, is that we can still see/hear/read the things of the past and move on from there.
It started off well, but got a bit out of hand, I feel.
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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:01 am

tony ingram wrote:It started off well, but got a bit out of hand, I feel.

Genuinely don't know whether you're talking about disco or nostalgia.
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Post by tony ingram on Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:46 am

Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:It started off well, but got a bit out of hand, I feel.

Genuinely don't know whether you're talking about disco or nostalgia.
Disco. Nostalgia is basically my life, you may have noticed? Razz
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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:37 pm

tony ingram wrote:Disco. Nostalgia is basically my life, you may have noticed? Razz
Good point. I'm surprised you don't travel around on a penny farthing.
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:30 pm

tony ingram wrote:It started off well, but got a bit out of hand, I feel.

I'm assuming you mean disco, but for me I think nostalgia and disco are related. That is, I like it because of nostalgia.
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:41 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Good point. I'm surprised you don't travel around on a penny farthing.

Like if it were a choice, you wouldn't?
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Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:44 pm

Mbast1 wrote:I'm assuming you mean disco, but for me I think nostalgia and disco are related. That is, I like it because of nostalgia.

Me too. It reminds me of school discos in the nineties — a simpler, happier time.

Mbast1 wrote:Like if it were a choice, you wouldn't?

I'd look like a prat and I'd probably fall off it Laughing
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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:39 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Me too. It reminds me of school discos in the nineties — a simpler, happier time.

It reminds me of being a kid during the disco era, and going roller skating with friends. I really am old, thinking about that.


Lucy McGough wrote:I'd look like a prat and I'd probably fall off it Laughing

I'm certain neither is true! Although, to be honest, I had to look up what one was, because I thought it was a coin...
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:22 am

I think it is impossible not to look like a prat on a penny farthing.
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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:59 am

By the way, Mike, Tony and I are in a relationship (officially announced on Facebook on Monday July 24th) and we're going to rent a house together.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:15 pm

I love your matter of fact way of putting things out there, Luce. Smile
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Post by Mbast1 on Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:20 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:By the way, Mike, Tony and I are in a relationship (officially announced on Facebook on Monday July 24th) and we're going to rent a house together.

I'm going to look like a complete doofus if you were kidding, but I'm going to assume not and just say congratulations! I wish the two of you only the best. You're two of my favorite people, so I hope things go well with the house!
Although you're gonna need a lot of rooms with those pics Tony showed of all his stuff.
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:26 pm

Apparently, I have to downsize... Sad
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Post by Mbast1 on Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:23 am

tony ingram wrote:Apparently, I have to downsize... Sad

I have done that, and am currently trying to do that, I don't envy either the labor or the trauma of all that.
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Post by tony ingram on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:49 am

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Apparently, I have to downsize... Sad

I have done that, and am currently trying to do that, I don't envy either the labor or the trauma of all that.
Actually, I've just sold a lot of collectibles, and it's been quite liberating.
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:30 pm

tony ingram wrote:Actually, I've just sold a lot of collectibles, and it's been quite liberating.

Hm. I guess I can see that, and there's definitely a lot to get rid of I won't miss, but I've only ever had to get rid of things because I was out of money before, so that's the association I have with "downsizing".
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Post by tony ingram on Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:16 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Actually, I've just sold a lot of collectibles, and it's been quite liberating.

Hm. I guess I can see that, and there's definitely a lot to get rid of I won't miss, but I've only ever had to get rid of things because I was out of money before, so that's the association I have with "downsizing".
Well, there is that as well. I am essentially giving up everything including my job to move 225 miles in order to make a new start with Lucy. Which I am quite happy about.


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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:26 pm

tony ingram wrote:I am essentially giving up everything including my job to move 225 miles in order to make a new start with Lucy. Which I am quite happy about.

Yeah, I did kind of lose the point I guess. Sorry. Still wish you both the best.
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