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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:56 pm

I think this may sum up what I love about Superman in general, and L&C in particular:

http://www.cbr.com/dean-cain-reveals-the-key-to-playing-superman-or-supergirl/

“Kindness. First and foremost, it’s kindness.” he told Moviefone. “You’re the most powerful being on Earth, or one of the most powerful beings on Earth, and you have to have a kindness, an ability to relate to everyone, and that’s what Superman or Supergirl does.”

“They say the ‘S’ means ‘hope,’ and that’s a great thing, but Superman is always kind,” he continued. “Obviously, if he’s fighting a foe, he’ll fight him until he’s got him beat, but then he would pick him up. It’s been tougher with the latest incarnations, but I think kindness is about the most important thing,” the actor added.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:22 am

I haven't really thought about that show in years, but I used to watch it religiously. I was really pleased when Cain and Hatcher turned up on Supergirl!
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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:44 pm

Mbast1 wrote:“Obviously, if he’s fighting a foe, he’ll fight him until he’s got him beat, but then he would pick him up. It’s been tougher with the latest incarnations, but I think kindness is about the most important thing,” the actor added.[/i]

This is SO TRUE! Without it, he'd just be a tyrant.
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Post by Mbast1 on Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:41 pm

tony ingram wrote:I haven't really thought about that show in years, but I used to watch it religiously. I was really pleased when Cain and Hatcher turned up on Supergirl!

I own the first season of Supergirl, but I haven't watched it yet. I'm so behind on everything.

I have always loved L&C, partly because it's Superman and partly because it (purposefully IIRC) reminds me of Moonlighting. I still watch it once in a while.
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Post by Mbast1 on Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:46 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:This is SO TRUE! Without it, he'd just be a tyrant.

I totally agree. His kindness, his caring about EVERYone has always been my favorite part of the character.
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Post by tony ingram on Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:47 am

Supes pretty much embodies family values. It's why he works so well as a married man, unlike certain other characters.
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:23 pm

tony ingram wrote:It's why he works so well as a married man, unlike certain other characters.

I would entirely agree. I like the Bronze Age version, where he "couldn't" let himself get too involved, but him being married makes more sense. Then again, I never understood the reasons why people hated the marriage anyway.
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Post by tony ingram on Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:57 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:It's why he works so well as a married man, unlike certain other characters.

I would entirely agree. I like the Bronze Age version, where he "couldn't" let himself get too involved, but him being married makes more sense. Then again, I never understood the reasons why people hated the marriage anyway.
The same reason as always. People dislike change.
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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:23 pm

tony ingram wrote:The same reason as always. People dislike change.

To some extent, I see that. Things change, especially comics, that much I've seen, so hating change for change's sake sounds exhausting. But, I can definitely see not liking specific change, in that if you like a book as it is, change may result in something you don't like.
That said, I saw a lot of people who seemed to hate it for reasons that I didn't get. It made the character boring, they didn't like Lois, and so on. No clue.
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Post by tony ingram on Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:47 pm

Like he wasn't boring before the marriage? Bronze Age Superman frequently may as well have been a cardboard cut-out!
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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:05 am

Marriage, in my opinion, makes a character more interesting, because they have to think about and relate to another person all the time. But that other person can also offer them new resources and connections.

For some people (dunno if Mike's ever heard of the 2000 AD characters SinDex) life's better as a pair.
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Post by Mbast1 on Tue May 09, 2017 8:59 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Marriage, in my opinion, makes a character more interesting, because they have to think about and relate to another person all the time. But that other person can also offer them new resources and connections.

I agree. I think marriage, and any long-term relationship, shapes you into a better person for those very reasons.

Lucy McGough wrote:For some people (dunno if Mike's ever heard of the 2000 AD characters SinDex) life's better as a pair.

I bought a copy of the first volume of that book on Tony's recommendation. Haven't read it, yet, too much else to read.
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Post by Mbast1 on Tue May 09, 2017 9:01 pm

tony ingram wrote:Like he wasn't boring before the marriage? Bronze Age Superman frequently may as well have been a cardboard cut-out!

I never thought so. That's my default version. Then again, I read them as a kid and it's likely I only remember the stand-out moments and stories. Plenty of bad ones.
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Post by tony ingram on Wed May 10, 2017 7:15 am

Are you still reading Superman, incidentally? The current stuff?
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Post by Mbast1 on Wed May 10, 2017 11:14 pm

tony ingram wrote:Are you still reading Superman, incidentally? The current stuff?

I did read some of the Reborn stuff, but I'm still mostly keeping to my DC ban. Anything good?
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Post by tony ingram on Thu May 11, 2017 8:28 am

I've been dipping my toes into DC since Rebirth, mostly due to an indulgent comic shop owner who doesn't mind me treating the place like a library, but I haven't been keeping up with Superman specifically, though I keep hearing it's gotten better. I gather the pre-Nu52 Superman is now firmly established as the "real" one and everyone has forgotten the Nu52 version...
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Post by Mbast1 on Mon May 15, 2017 4:23 pm

tony ingram wrote:I gather the pre-Nu52 Superman is now firmly established as the "real" one and everyone has forgotten the Nu52 version...

More or less. It seems that that Superman was "split in two" (yes, echoes of red and blue) and that they re-merged. The old version seems to take precedence, though in interviews it was said they kept parts of the new version also.
I just am still not liking that this seems to be all about using Watchmen. Vindictive, petty and bs, in that Moore has repeatedly said he was told they wouldn't use the characters like that. So, still no DC for me.
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Post by tony ingram on Mon May 15, 2017 5:56 pm

Are any of the people who made that promise to him still actually working for DC?
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Post by Mbast1 on Tue May 16, 2017 10:01 pm

tony ingram wrote:Are any of the people who made that promise to him still actually working for DC?

No idea, but it seems pretty petty to not honor it.
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Post by tony ingram on Wed May 17, 2017 7:13 am

I don't think honour as a concept really exists in the world of big business.
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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat May 20, 2017 8:49 am

Apart from one or two exceptions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39851253
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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 20, 2017 1:14 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Apart from one or two exceptions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39851253
I think that is the best comics related news story of the year, so far. Very Happy
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Post by Mbast1 on Tue May 23, 2017 3:41 pm

tony ingram wrote:I don't think honour as a concept really exists in the world of big business.

I know, I know. And that is a deep flaw, I think.
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Post by Lucy McGough on Wed May 24, 2017 8:30 am

Honour isn't lucrative.
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Post by Mbast1 on Wed May 24, 2017 5:19 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Honour isn't lucrative.

But the thing is, it could be, in the long run. Wouldn't you be willing to take more risks on someone you know will honor their commitments?
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