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Twice Upon a Time

Post by tony ingram on Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:35 pm

I was really expecting to hate that. I really, really didn't want them to have someone else (again) as the first Doctor. But...they showed Hartnell! It was OK! And it was a really nice send-off for Capaldi! And then...ummm..well...
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Post by Lucy McGough on Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:49 pm

The 'goodbye, Doctor' bit was too self-indulgent, but those bits always are these days. The rest was very good.
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Post by Mbast1 on Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:48 pm

tony ingram wrote:And it was a really nice send-off for Capaldi!

I agree. Overall the episode was a lot of fun, and I'm definitely going to miss him. I know it's the way of the show, but I seem to just get into a Doctor and then they're gone.
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Post by tony ingram on Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:57 pm

It's because we no longer get 26 episodes a year...
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Post by karatattoo on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:01 pm

I thought this was a very enjoyable episode, but I would like to have seen a bit more of the recast Polly and Ben. I would have liked to see them kneeling over the Doctor as the scene fades back to the original 1966 recording.

One thing I want to have stopped is the regeneration being so destructive it's nearly akin to a nuclear detonation. This isn't necessary just so the TARDIS interior can be changed. It has already been established that the TARDIS has thirty different control room designs on file, so all that would be needed is the selection of a new "desktop."  Also, no more soliloquies by the Doctor. They're becoming a bit cliché.

David Bradley was excellent as the 1st Doctor. Bill Hartnell would have been proud.

As for Jodie Whittaker, I'm really looking forward to seeing her adventures. One problem I have, and this is clearly my problem, is that I'm terrible with unfamiliar accents. It took about half of Peter Capaldi's first year before I could watch an episode without have to replay the Doctor's dialog several times in order to understand what he was saying.

I was convinced that the new Doctor's first words were "Oh, Berlin," or "Aw, Berlin."

I had to look up what she actually said.

Oh well, I'll figure it all out...

...eventually.


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Post by tony ingram on Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:53 pm

I really am not so sure Hartnell woud have been proud. He was notoriously possessive of the role.
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:40 pm

karatattoo wrote:I had to look up what she actually said.

What did she say?
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Post by karatattoo on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:48 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
karatattoo wrote:I had to look up what she actually said.

What did she say?

“Oh, brilliant!”
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Post by karatattoo on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:51 pm

tony ingram wrote:I really am not so sure Hartnell woud have been proud. He was notoriously possessive of the role.

That may be, but the poor man have been dead for nearly 43 years.

Also, Hartnell never owned the rights to the character of the Doctor. The BBC does.
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:58 pm

karatattoo wrote:“Oh, brilliant!”

Cool. Thanks!
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Post by tony ingram on Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:14 am

karatattoo wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I really am not so sure Hartnell woud have been proud. He was notoriously possessive of the role.

That may be, but the poor man have been dead for nearly 43 years.

Also, Hartnell never owned the rights to the character of the Doctor. The BBC does.
Legality and morality are frequently not the same thing.
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Post by karatattoo on Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:29 am

tony ingram wrote:Legality and morality are frequently not the same thing.

Quite true. I've served on courtroom juries several times, and have heard the presiding Judge say as much while giving instructions to the jury.

BTW, dd any one else notice when everyone enters the 1st Doctor's TARDIS, that as he throws the lever to take off, the name Bernard Wilkie appears on the console?

Bernard Wilkie was the visual effects designer on several Doctor Who stories during the Second and Third Doctor's eras.
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Post by tony ingram on Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:14 am

I didn't notice, I'll have to see if I can rewatch it.
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Post by karatattoo on Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:52 pm

tony ingram wrote:I didn't notice, I'll have to see if I can rewatch it.

Another bit of trivia:

The jacket Jon Pertwee wore as the 3rd Doctor in Planet of the Daleks can be seen (dimly) on a coat rack at the top of the steps as the 12th Doctor begins his Farewell Speech.
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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:14 pm

Ooh, nice!
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