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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:08 am

Once DC started the New 52, we had a "Doctor Fate" appear in the series Earth 2, but that one was a guy named Khalid Ben-Hassin who had found the Helm of Nabu.



Then, in 2015, Paul Levitz was the writer for a series that featured a student named Khalid Nassour who was given the helmet that allowed him to become Doctor Fate.



The interesting thing about Khalid Nassour was that in issue #12, it was revealed that he had a relative called "Uncle Kent" (actually his Great Uncle on his mother's side)



Even more interesting, Kent would also resume his identity as "Doctor Fate" and work with Khalid in later issues. And in one issue (#16), he even though about his days with the JSA in one panel.



But even though some of those last issues were published after Rebirth had begun, I don't know if any of that remains as part of the current continuity.

We also saw "Doctor Fate" show up in the DC Universe: Rebirth one-shot, with his appearance connected to Blue Beetle.



Beyond that, Doctor Fate is also now tied in with the 2018 Justice League relaunch.

But, aside from his mention of his time with the JSA in Paul Levitz' series, has there been any other mention of Doctor Fate with the JSA yet?

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:05 pm

Not specificaly, as far as I'm aware, but the last Dr. Fate series seems to still b e in continuity and the guy who's been seen in recent months (in Metal and DC Nation as well as the Justice League relaunch) is clearly intended to be the same character. I gather Kent also appeared in several issues of Blue Beetle in which he was basically trapped in his tower in Salem while Nabu ran around pretending to be him, but I never read those issues so I'm unclear on the details.
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:25 pm

tony ingram wrote:Not specificaly, as far as I'm aware, but the last Dr. Fate series seems to still b e in continuity and the guy who's been seen in recent months (in Metal and DC Nation as well as the Justice League relaunch) is clearly intended to be the same character. I gather Kent also appeared in several issues of Blue Beetle in which he was basically trapped in his tower in Salem while Nabu ran around pretending to be him, but I never read those issues so I'm unclear on the details.
I had avoided Blue Beetle and Metal, but did get a copy of DC Nation #0. He appeared for one page (three panels / 18 words) as part of "Justice League: Team Wonder".



Haven't read any of the Justice League: No Justice issues released last month (and don't currently plan to), so no idea if/how much of a role he had in those four issues.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:57 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Not specificaly, as far as I'm aware, but the last Dr. Fate series seems to still b e in continuity and the guy who's been seen in recent months (in Metal and DC Nation as well as the Justice League relaunch) is clearly intended to be the same character. I gather Kent also appeared in several issues of Blue Beetle in which he was basically trapped in his tower in Salem while Nabu ran around pretending to be him, but I never read those issues so I'm unclear on the details.
I had avoided Blue Beetle and Metal, but did get a copy of DC Nation #0. He appeared for one page (three panels / 18 words) as part of "Justice League: Team Wonder".



Haven't read any of the Justice League: No Justice issues released last month (and don't currently plan to), so no idea if/how much of a role he had in those four issues.
Not a lot, basically. He was slightly more prominent in Metal.
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:49 pm

By the way, I already posted about the upcoming Justice League Dark #1 in another thread:

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Doctor Fate is pictured on the cover of issue #2:

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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:28 pm

What use will Man-Bat be on a team? He can't even make the coffee, because he doesn't have proper hands.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:35 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:What use will Man-Bat be on a team? He can't even make the coffee, because he doesn't have proper hands.
On the other hand, if it gets too hot in their HQ, he can keep the team cool by fanning them with his wings. He could indeed be their biggest fan!
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:50 am

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:What use will Man-Bat be on a team? He can't even make the coffee, because he doesn't have proper hands.
On the other hand, if it gets too hot in their HQ, he can keep the team cool by fanning them with his wings. He could indeed be their biggest fan!
Actually, the usefulness of Man-Bat may depend in part on how much of his human intelligence he retains.
Back in the pre-CoIE days, he had a long stretch where he still maintained much of Kirk Langstrom's intelligence / personality.


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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:34 am

I think he's generally been treated as a savage monster in recent years...
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:53 pm

tony ingram wrote:I think he's generally been treated as a savage monster in recent years...
Oh, I'm aware of that.
But I still remember what use to be . . . and what could be again?
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:32 pm

Does he have a Woman-Bat in his life?
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:40 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Does he have a Woman-Bat in his life?
Well, he certainly used to. he transormed his wife into a Man-Bat, too.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:24 pm

His wife was a man? I didn't know that that was legal back then.
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:52 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:His wife was a man? I didn't know that that was legal back then.
Actually, she was turned into a female man-bat eventually referred to as "She-Bat".
(Yeah, the "She-_____" designation gets to be a bit trite after a while . . . )
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:15 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:His wife was a man? I didn't know that that was legal back then.
Actually, she was turned into a female man-bat eventually referred to as "She-Bat".
(Yeah, the "She-_____" designation gets to be a bit trite after a while . . . )
She-Bat, She-Hulk, She-Thing....there do seem to be a few...
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:02 pm

tony ingram wrote:
MajorHoy wrote: . . . eventually referred to as "She-Bat".
(Yeah, the "She-_____" designation gets to be a bit trite after a while . . . )
She-Bat, She-Hulk, She-Thing....there do seem to be a few...
The female counterpart to "He-Man" was "She-Ra", and over at AC Comics, "She-Cat" was a member of FemForce.

We also can't forget


And to make matters more interesting, Francine Langstrom wouldn't be the only "She-Bat"!



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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:51 pm

I'm assuming that last one was a 90s book...?
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Post by MajorHoy on Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:55 pm

tony ingram wrote:I'm assuming that last one was a 90s book...?
Yeah, 1993, as a matter of fact.
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:05 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I'm assuming that last one was a 90s book...?
Yeah, 1993, as a matter of fact.
Thought so. That art could only really come from that era. Thankfully.
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Post by MajorHoy on Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:35 am

tony ingram wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I'm assuming that last one was a 90s book...?
Yeah, 1993, as a matter of fact.
Thought so. That art could only really come from that era. Thankfully.
But . . . that's Neal Adams on Valeria, the She-Bat! Shocked
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:20 am

Had Neal Adams ever actually seen breasts before?
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Post by Mbast1 on Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:11 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Had Neal Adams ever actually seen breasts before?

In other comics. Or strip joints, I guess.
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:32 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Had Neal Adams ever actually seen breasts before?
In other comics. Or strip joints, I guess.
I wonder if he went to strip joints . . . and besides, the ones there aren't always "real"/natural.
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:49 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Had Neal Adams ever actually seen breasts before?
The man is a professional comic artist, and has been all his life.

So the answer is probably "no".
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:53 am

Nonsense! Women go crazy for men who know about comics.
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Post by tony ingram on Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:43 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Nonsense! Women go crazy for men who know about comics.
Only certain women...
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Post by MajorHoy on Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Nonsense! Women go crazy for men who know about comics.
Only certain women...
The . . . "unique" . . . ones. Wink
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