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Post by MajorHoy on Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:33 pm

As I had previously mentioned in the "What Have They Done to Uncle Sam?" thread,
MajorHoy wrote:Well, for what it's worth, CBR is reporting:
EXCLUSIVE: DC’s Freedom Fighters Make Their Triumphant, Nazi-Punching Return
09.13.2018 by Meg Downey - in CBR Exclusives
DC’s Nazi fighting Earth-X dream team, the Freedom Fighters, are making a triumphant return in the Rebirth era with a brand new twelve issue limited series by writer Rob Venditti and artist Eddy Barrows, set to hit shelves this winter.
Featuring some new takes on the familiar faces of the Freedom Fighter’s original roster: Human Bomb, Black Condor, Doll Woman and Phantom Lady Freedom Fighters #1 is set in Earth-X’s version of 2018, where the population of America has lived in fear of an oppressive Nazi regime since their ultimate victory in World War II. We sat down to speak with Venditti to get some more details about this new take on the classic DC concept, as well as get some insight into just who, and what, we might expect to see . . .
You can read the rest at https://www.cbr.com/dc-freedom-fighters-nazi-punching-new-series/, ...
Anyway, issue #1 is due out December 19th.

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FREEDOM FIGHTERS #1
Line up for this all-new maxiseries set on Earth X, where the Nazis won World War II! Twenty years after invading and occupying America, Germany wiped out all metahuman resistance, including the original Freedom Fighters.
Fast-forward to the present day, and a new team of Freedom Fighters emerges to challenge the Nazi occupation once again. But if they’re to have any chance of victory, they’re going to need Uncle Sam—who disappeared after his original team was killed. The 12-part epic “Death of a Nation” storyline kicks off here!
Art and Cover by: Eddy Barrows
Variant cover by: Ben Oliver
Written by: Robert Venditti
U.S. cover Price: $3.99
On Sale Date: Dec 19 2018
https://www.dccomics.com/comics/freedom-fighters-2018/freedom-fighters-1

variant cover by Ben Oliver:
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:49 am

Why can't we just have the original team back?
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Post by MajorHoy on Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:01 pm

tony ingram wrote:Why can't we just have the original team back?
Probably because different people have different ideas on what "original" means to them. There was the original version from the 1970s (altered/expanded slightly by Roy Thomas in All-Star Squadron in the 1980s); then there was a second version in the 1990s (the one basically wiped out at the start of Infinite Crisis); and then there was the post-Infinite Crisis version(s), not to mention the sort-of original versions in the two-issue Conversion mini-(micro?)-series.
Which one(s) would appeal to the most buyers these days?

(But, yeah, I would prefer the originals, too, as long as they're written/handled well.)
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:32 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Why can't we just have the original team back?
Probably because different people have different ideas on what "original" means to them. There was the original version from the 1970s (altered/expanded slightly by Roy Thomas in All-Star Squadron in the 1980s); then there was a second version in the 1990s (the one basically wiped out at the start of Infinite Crisis); and then there was the post-Infinite Crisis version(s), not to mention the sort-of original versions in the two-issue Conversion mini-(micro?)-series.
Which one(s) would appeal to the most buyers these days?

(But, yeah, I would prefer the originals, too, as long as they're written/handled well.)
I don't think any version but the 70s line-up ever really caught on. certainly not the versions killed off in Infinite Crisis, they never even had a series, sadly.
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Post by Mbast1 on Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 am

I agree. The first group is always the one I think of.
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Post by tony ingram on Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:11 am

It baffles me that DC feel the need to continually reinvent characters when the original versions are still perfectly serviceable. It's not as though the original FFers had hundreds of issues worth of complex continuity behind them which could potentially put off new readers!
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:29 pm

tony ingram wrote:DC feel the need to continually reinvent characters when the original versions are still perfectly serviceable.

Well, I think that's what they've always done, update/reinvent for each new generation. I mean, the bronze age Superman isn't the golden age, and mostly not the silver age. Each generation thinks they are unique and they DO seem to grow up in different cultural eras, so it seems like DC is just responding to the market. I just know that I do think of the original version when I think of the FF.
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Post by tony ingram on Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:44 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:DC feel the need to continually reinvent characters when the original versions are still perfectly serviceable.

Well, I think that's what they've always done, update/reinvent for each new generation. I mean, the bronze age Superman isn't the golden age, and mostly not the silver age. Each generation thinks they are unique and they DO seem to grow up in different cultural eras, so it seems like DC is just responding to the market. I just know that I do think of the original version when I think of the FF.
Sure, but Superman is still Clark Kent, with a sizeable chunk of his history intact. Spider-Man is still Peter Parker, apparently with all of his history intact (aside from the John Byrne thing we don't talk about). Batman is still bruce wayne, not Dirk Wayne or Barry Binglethorpe XII. So why can't the Black Condor be Richard Grey Jnr, AKA Senator Tom Wright?
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Post by Mbast1 on Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:31 pm

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Mbast1 wrote:So why can't the Black Condor be Richard Grey Jnr, AKA Senator Tom Wright?

I think it's more a business need than artistic. I read an article years ago talking about trademarks, and how the companies won't give them up even if the character doesn't work. So they bring them back as "new" people, with the old codenames, to keep their IP.
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Post by tony ingram on Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:57 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
tony ingram wrote:
Mbast1 wrote:So why can't the Black Condor be Richard Grey Jnr, AKA Senator Tom Wright?

I think it's more a business need than artistic. I read an article years ago talking about trademarks, and how the companies won't give them up even if the character doesn't work. So they bring them back as "new" people, with the old codenames, to keep their IP.
In what way did the original Black Condor not work!? DC never gave him a fair chance! This is a man who learned to fly because he was raised by condors!!! That is brilliant!!!!
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