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Post by Hourglass on Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:24 pm

The trailer shown at last nights press night is on digispy
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a209692/the-second-who-series-five-trailer.html

The reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally BAD news is the CYBUSMEN are back and not the cybermen.
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:51 am

It looks awesome!

And I like the Cybusmen.
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Post by Hourglass on Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:55 am

Lucy McGough wrote:It looks awesome!

And I like the Cybusmen.

Good to see you here Lucy.
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Post by felneymike on Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:36 am

Wasn't there talk of a showdown between both the new and old cybermen?

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Post by Hourglass on Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:35 am

Well I looked at the lazer beams from the ship battle and the blue matches that of the beam fired in Silver Nemesis (yes I am that lame) so I think its still possible.
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Post by codywillis1 on Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:30 pm

I'm having serious trouble getting excited, even though I'd like to. Like so mucvh else about the 21st century, though, I just find NuWho so generally.... obnoxious.
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:59 am

codywillis1 wrote:I'm having serious trouble getting excited, even though I'd like to. Like so mucvh else about the 21st century, though, I just find NuWho so generally.... obnoxious.
I can understand that-but this is nu-nu-Who, which may surprise you yet. I'm not expecting huge departures from the style of thelast five years, but I do expect the quality of the writing to improve based on Moffat's previous work.
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Post by codywillis1 on Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:34 am

True. And the clips do look a bit more atmospheric, and Smith (while in some ways looking like he's getting exactly the same kind of dialogue Rolling Eyes ) does look a bit less punchable than his predecessor. naughty

I'm still firmly stuck in "whatever" mode, though, at present. New trailer 867270
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:48 am

codywillis1 wrote:True. And the clips do look a bit more atmospheric, and Smith (while in some ways looking like he's getting exactly the same kind of dialogue Rolling Eyes ) does look a bit less punchable than his predecessor. naughty

I'm still firmly stuck in "whatever" mode, though, at present. New trailer 867270
Another two weeks and we'll see. C'mon, you aren't even vaguely excited...? Wink
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Post by Hourglass on Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:25 am

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The American trailer looks awesome.
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Post by tony ingram on Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:42 am

That's actually the best trailer I've seen! And Smith sounds very..Doctorish... Very Happy
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Post by felneymike on Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:56 am

Where would i start? Monsters of Rock 1980... clearly.

Though doubtless we'd wind up in a field in 1780 and have to foil a plot by clockwork kung-fu monks Rolling Eyes

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Post by tony ingram on Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:59 am

felneymike wrote:Where would i start? Monsters of Rock 1980... clearly.

Though doubtless we'd wind up in a field in 1780 and have to foil a plot by clockwork kung-fu monks Rolling Eyes
Clockwork Kung Fun Monks? Didn't they release a concept album in 1974?
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Post by codywillis1 on Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:58 pm

The American trailer is a lot more promising. Not keen on the dialogue I've heard Smith get so far, though. Very Tennantesque "I'm weally cool and well 'ard, I am".
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:00 am

codywillis1 wrote:The American trailer is a lot more promising. Not keen on the dialogue I've heard Smith get so far, though. Very Tennantesque "I'm weally cool and well 'ard, I am".
Awe you taking the mickey out of his wisp? That's not vewy nice...
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Post by GBF on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:23 am

Watched the trailer and the show looks like it has for the last...God knows how long. It looks crap. And the new Doc looks like the hero guy in Terrahawks. My God - is this the best we've got out there?
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Post by Hourglass on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:29 am

Someone once told me when things are revisited they are never the same as they are written by fan boys who don't see the bigger picture. RTD and Moffat both are victim of this. We get the crappy fan wishes of Dalek Vs cybermen but because they remember how loathed they were for being doctor who fans, they pitched it for viewers of Buffy and Twilight to appear cool and hip. in short they are self loathing fan boys and sadly this reflects in their work.

Meanwhile writers like Paul Cornell and Shearman who are passionate about Doctor Who (classic series) continue to grow from strength to strength as they see the excellent qualities the classic show had to offer and still has, and have chosen to expand on them rather than say "oh anything before 1999 was crap and shouldn't be copied".

In short if you love something but feel ashamed of it then what you produce will be crap.
If you love something and want to carry it on as it then it will be fine fine.
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:31 am

GBF wrote:Watched the trailer and the show looks like it has for the last...God knows how long. It looks crap. And the new Doc looks like the hero guy in Terrahawks. My God - is this the best we've got out there?
Probably not, but it may be the best we've got who's under 30, and the BBC seems to have decided that Who needs to appeal to the yoof, so I doubt we'll ever get a Doctor over 35 again...
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Post by GBF on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:52 am

Well, that's okay - is this one incarnation 11? if so only two more to go!! I still think a bteter idea would have been to have Tennant turn in to Simm - the Master would be the Doctor...now I'd watch THAT...
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:59 am

GBF wrote:Well, that's okay - is this one incarnation 11? if so only two more to go!! I still think a bteter idea would have been to have Tennant turn in to Simm - the Master would be the Doctor...now I'd watch THAT...
This guy is number 11, yes-but I suspect that with the Time Lords gone, the 12 regenerations limit no longer applies...
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Post by Hourglass on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:01 am

Well its not exactly a direct continuation, more of a Doctor who unbound: What if the shows writers smoked too much hash in their youth.
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Post by GBF on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:13 am

Maybe '13' in Time Lord speak means 50 billion - you know, like the way these Bible bashers tell you that a 'God' year may be millions of ours to enable them to fit the dinosaurs in...
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:33 am

Hourglass wrote:they are self loathing fan boys
I'm not Very Happy
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:48 am

Lucy McGough wrote:
Hourglass wrote:they are self loathing fan boys
I'm not Very Happy
Well, no-you're a fangirl, for a start! And not overly self loathing, either. But I think Hourglass was talking in general terms...
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:49 am

GBF wrote:Maybe '13' in Time Lord speak means 50 billion - you know, like the way these Bible bashers tell you that a 'God' year may be millions of ours to enable them to fit the dinosaurs in...
Dinosaurs are a hoax, didn't you know that? God created fossils to mislead archeologists (he has a wicked sense of humour. You only need to look at the Platypus to see that)...
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Post by Hourglass on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:53 am

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:
Hourglass wrote:they are self loathing fan boys
I'm not Very Happy
Well, no-you're a fangirl, for a start! And not overly self loathing, either. But I think Hourglass was talking in general terms...

I think I was talking crap like I normally do Very Happy
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Don't worry. The new series is going to be ace Smile
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Post by tony ingram on Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:34 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Don't worry. The new series is going to be ace Smile
I'm cautiously optimistic. I've read a couple of interviews with Moffat lately, and he seems to have a clearer idea of what Doctor Who should be than Davies did.
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Post by codywillis1 on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:16 pm

To be fair, he could hardly have any LESS.
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Post by tony ingram on Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:02 am

codywillis1 wrote:To be fair, he could hardly have any LESS.
Mr Davies is rumoured to be pitching an Americanised version of the show to the US. They're welcome to it, I think...
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Post by Hourglass on Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:15 am

I'm very happy to inform that most of his efforts in the USA have failed. Even his biggest project Torchwood isn't fairing to well as fox want to remove the homosexuality of Jack, something RTD is refusing.
I'm hoping the USA are smart enough to see RTD does not equal quallity.
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Post by tony ingram on Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:19 am

Hourglass wrote:I'm very happy to inform that most of his efforts in the USA have failed. Even his biggest project Torchwood isn't fairing to well as fox want to remove the homosexuality of Jack, something RTD is refusing.
I'm hoping the USA are smart enough to see RTD does not equal quallity.
Yes, I had a feeling the good Captain wouldn't go down too well in the States...
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Post by codywillis1 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:35 pm

I must confess, having watched the BBC America trailer a few more times, I'm starting to get a bit more enthused. Almost looks season 26ish in a way (I suppose it's World War II and those vampires). Fingers crossed. It certainly looks all round moodier and more atmospheric than the RTD romantic comedy version.Wink
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Post by tony ingram on Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:51 am

I'm excited at the prospect of seeing the new Silurians. They're a monster who, like the Cybermen, you can basically redesign however many times you want, since there could be any number of varieties!
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Post by felneymike on Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:20 pm

tony ingram wrote:
GBF wrote:Maybe '13' in Time Lord speak means 50 billion - you know, like the way these Bible bashers tell you that a 'God' year may be millions of ours to enable them to fit the dinosaurs in...
Dinosaurs are a hoax, didn't you know that? God created fossils to mislead archeologists (he has a wicked sense of humour. You only need to look at the Platypus to see that)...

Everybody knows the fossils were put there by Slartibartfast. Also the ice ages actually only lasted a few minutes and the reason nobody could penetrate into the interior of Australia for so long was because the paint on the devil's rock mountain thing was still wet.

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Post by codywillis1 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:39 am

There's a clip from the vampire one online.

Smith looks terrible IMHO. Tennant 2.0. Sad
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:57 am

I doubt you can tell much from a clip, to behonest. Give the guy a chance, Cody...
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Post by Lucy Ingram on Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:34 am

codywillis1 wrote:There's a clip from the vampire one online.
Where?!? cyclops
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:09 am

I can't find it, either. Link, Cody?
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Post by GBF on Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:35 am

I watched Woss last night and soon goon was on whom I believe is the next Doctor. What a strange looking boy! Watched the preview - shades of Hammer Horror - the man who can zip thru space and time, visit strange worlds and stranger species seems to be fighting Vampirella and her sisters. I was expecting MJ (Michael Jackson NOT Mary Jane) to start strutting around, grabbing crotches and spinning. So original!! Still, it beats some stretched skin between two sticks! And why was that Dalek wearing soldiers webbing??!! Cynical? You bet. Why? Take a look at what's on offer from one of the greatest characters ever to - er - appear anywhere...
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:50 am

The Dalek was wearing webbing for story related reasons; that episode is set in World War II, and if you look closely, our tin plated chum has a small Union Jack just below his eye stalk...
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Post by Hourglass on Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:40 am

The clips on here Tony
http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/
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Post by tony ingram on Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:54 am

Hourglass wrote:The clips on here Tony
http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/
I rather like that. I'm a sucker for vampire girls...
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Post by codywillis1 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:45 pm

The vampire girls looked alright. It was the bloke in the scene with them I was less than keen on...
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Post by Hourglass on Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:15 pm

There is a new clip on the BBC website. My heart sank when I watched it. More of the Rotten Tomato Dressing stylings.
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Post by codywillis1 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:10 pm

Seen it. Not impressed either, Hourglass...
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Post by Hourglass on Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:32 am

For anyone on here who doesnt like the new series I strong,y sugest trying the big finish audios. They are very strong (had a bit of a dip between 70-90) and capture the classic who feel brilliantly.
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