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Post by Lucy Ingram Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:50 am

One day we will be rich and you can buy ALL the comics!

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This time next year, we'll be millionaires Wink
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Post by MajorHoy Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:52 pm

After her appearances in Batman Family #17 and Freedom Fighters #14 in 1978, it looks like Kathy Kane's next appearance was in Detective Comics #485 (August-September 1979).
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Unfortunately, that story featured her death.
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Post by tony ingram Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:09 pm

And by the looks of it, that was it for Kathy of Earth One... Crying or Very sad
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Post by MajorHoy Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:42 am

Not sure if this ever got posted here (it could be one of the images that doesn't show up any longer):
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from Who's Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe Vol. II (April 1985)
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Post by tony ingram Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:56 pm

Was there only an entry for the Earth One Kathy in Who's Who?
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Post by MajorHoy Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:57 pm

tony ingram wrote:Was there only an entry for the Earth One Kathy in Who's Who?
I don't really think there was much to make a separate entry for an Earth-2 version. Was Earth-2 Batwoman in more stories than those two issues of The Brave and the Bold prior to 1985 / Crisis on Infinite Earths?  (I always assumed the 1950-1960s stories were considered to be more "Silver Age"/Earth-1 and not "Golden Age"/Earth-2.)

And for the record, Catwoman had separate Earth-1 and Earth-2 entries, but then again, the Earth-2 version had married Bruce (and later died) while the Earth-1 version hadn't.  But The Joker, who premiered in that same issue as "The Cat", and arguably had a helluva lot more Golden Age stories, didn't get separate Earth-2 and Earth-1 entries. (Neither did The Penguin.)
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Post by tony ingram Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:19 am

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Was there only an entry for the Earth One Kathy in Who's Who?
I don't really think there was much to make a separate entry for an Earth-2 version. Was Earth-2 Batwoman in more stories than those two issues of The Brave and the Bold prior to 1985 / Crisis on Infinite Earths?  (I always assumed the 1950-1960s stories were considered to be more "Silver Age"/Earth-1 and not "Golden Age"/Earth-2.)

And for the record, Catwoman had separate Earth-1 and Earth-2 entries, but then again, the Earth-2 version had married Bruce (and later died) while the Earth-1 version hadn't.  But The Joker, who premiered in that same issue as "The Cat", and arguably had a helluva lot more Golden Age stories, didn't get separate Earth-2 and Earth-1 entries. (Neither did The Penguin.)
I know, I always thought that was a bit unfair myself! Earth Two Joker was easily as significant as Alexi Luthor, if not more so, but Luthor got an entry!
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Post by MajorHoy Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:44 pm

tony ingram wrote: . . . Earth Two Joker was easily as significant as Alexi Luthor, if not more so, but Luthor got an entry!
There were more differences between the Earth-2 and Earth-1 versions of Luthor, like the fact that Earth-1 Luthor was bald and blamed Superboy/Superman for his hair loss, while Earth-2 Luthor still had hair.  Hell, even Mr. Mxyztplk / Mr. Mxyzptlk had different spellings and different costumes, so they at least got a split entry.
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Joker has now been around for 80 years (45 at the time of CoIE), and I know we got The Three Jokers recently, but back in 1985, what were the differences between Earth-2 and Earth-1 Jokers (besides one being older)?
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Post by tony ingram Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:26 am

Fair point, I guess. Did Two-Face get two entries? As I recall, Earth Two Two-Face was called Harvey Kent, wasn't he?
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Post by MajorHoy Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:07 pm

tony ingram wrote:Fair point, I guess. Did Two-Face get two entries? As I recall, Earth Two Two-Face was called Harvey Kent, wasn't he?
I believe that was the initial name used, but it was soon after altered to Dent.
(A Wikipedia article says the name change was to avoid confusion with Clark Kent, but I also thought I remember hearing years ago there was something involving the Batman newspaper comic strip involved with the differences in name?)
What it boils down to is that I don't think the Harvey Kent name was used for all of the Golden Age with a change to Dent only happening with the Silver/Bronze Age, so I guess no real need for two separate entries. (No matter how fitting it would have been for Harvey.)
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Post by Mbast1 Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:44 pm

MajorHoy wrote:but back in 1985, what were the differences between Earth-2 and Earth-1 Jokers (besides one being older)?

This was one of the things about Who's Who that always seemed annoying. It was almost arbitrary when it came to this, whether a character was different "enough" to justify their own entry.

Well, that and the fact that the promised Earth-One Superman entry was never included. That annoyed me a lot.
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Post by MajorHoy Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:06 pm

Mbast1 wrote:This was one of the things about Who's Who that always seemed annoying. It was almost arbitrary when it came to this, whether a character was different "enough" to justify their own entry.

Well, that and the fact that the promised Earth-One Superman entry was never included. That annoyed me a lot.
Uh, there were two different entries for both the "Golden Age" Superman and the modern/present-day Superman in the original Who's Who series.
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Post by tony ingram Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:39 am

MajorHoy wrote:
Mbast1 wrote:This was one of the things about Who's Who that always seemed annoying. It was almost arbitrary when it came to this, whether a character was different "enough" to justify their own entry.

Well, that and the fact that the promised Earth-One Superman entry was never included. That annoyed me a lot.
Uh, there were two different entries for both the "Golden Age" Superman and the modern/present-day Superman in the original Who's Who series.
Yes, but the modern day Superman featured was the Byrne reboot one, not the Earth One version.
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