Is DC making Golden Age Green Lantern (Alan Scott) a gay man in the past?
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Is DC making Golden Age Green Lantern (Alan Scott) a gay man in the past?
Anybody remember this from the old thread "Mystery super-gay due to emerge from closet"?
Well, guess what Bleeding Cool recently ran?
tony ingram wrote:It seems likely now that Alan Scott is our mystery gay guy, which pretty much wraps up DC's quest to change every significant thing about the JSA and also sccessfully eliminates any last, lingering hopes that Jade and Obsidian might still exist. Terrific.tony ingram wrote:BleedingCool.Lucy McGough wrote:Where'd you hear that?
Well, guess what Bleeding Cool recently ran?
Alan Scott, Green Lantern, as a Gay Man in the 1940s
(https://bleedingcool.com/comics/alan-scott-green-lantern-as-a-gay-man-in-the-1940s/)
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MajorHoy wrote:Well, guess what Bleeding Cool recently ran?
There's a VERY small hint in the GL special issue. Not even sure it is what people think. Vague.
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That was mentioned (with some panels from the issue shown) in the Bleeding Cool post.Mbast1 wrote:There's a VERY small hint in the GL special issue. Not even sure it is what people think. Vague.MajorHoy wrote:Well, guess what Bleeding Cool recently ran?
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Really not happy about this. Why can't they just give us our characters back, without changing their established histories?
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Mild "tweaks" would be one thing, but this ain't a "little" change.tony ingram wrote:Really not happy about this. Why can't they just give us our characters back, without changing their established histories?
As I've said elsewhere, if they want a gay hero back in the 1940s, they should revive All-Star Squadron and create one there, like they did when they gave us a black "Golden Age" hero in Amazing Man. Hell, they could even take a Golden Age hero who had very little exposure back then and have that hero replaced by a gay successor.
But DC doesn't give a hoot about what I would like them to do . . .
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MajorHoy wrote:Mild "tweaks" would be one thing, but this ain't a "little" change.
In terms of what they're likely to do with the little they showed, I think it is small. In that it looked to be merely a hint, with no background, and I'd bet it was meant connect to the E2 version without really changing the GA version. Or, rather, the modern version of the GA version. Or whatever this is.
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If they are in any way, shape, or form implying that Golden Age Alan Scott was gay, that changes the character. No ifs, ands, or buts about that, even if it doesn't play a major part in any immediate storyline (when DC bothers to use the JSA in a story).Mbast1 wrote:In terms of what they're likely to do with the little they showed, I think it is small. In that it looked to be merely a hint, with no background, and I'd bet it was meant connect to the E2 version without really changing the GA version. Or, rather, the modern version of the GA version. Or whatever this is.MajorHoy wrote:Mild "tweaks" would be one thing, but this ain't a "little" change.
At least, that's how I feel about it. That's not something that was "hinted at" during all the years prior to the disappearance of the JSA in the New52, so there's no need to retroactively make a revision like that now.
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That's my feeling, too. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out.
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MajorHoy wrote:Mild "tweaks" would be one thing, but this ain't a "little" change.tony ingram wrote:Really not happy about this. Why can't they just give us our characters back, without changing their established histories?
As I've said elsewhere, if they want a gay hero back in the 1940s, they should revive All-Star Squadron and create one there, like they did when they gave us a black "Golden Age" hero in Amazing Man. Hell, they could even take a Golden Age hero who had very little exposure back then and have that hero replaced by a gay successor...
I completely agree with you guys, these retcon things usually are an epic fail, not only in comics, especially when they want to promote the "politically correct"...
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Really didn't like this. It just felt forced.
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I don't know if I'd used the term "forced" as opposed to "clumsily written / handled".tony ingram wrote:Really didn't like this. It just felt forced.
Then again, I've never dealt with anyone just coming out, so I'm not an authority on how these things go.
As I've said before, I'm totally not in favor of it. I understood why they made the New52/Earth 2 Alan gay (as a nod to a no-longer-then-in-continuity Obsidian), but we have Obsidian back now. Golden Age Green Lantern, as far as I'm aware, was not previously written/created to be gay, but then political agendas within the creative community are probably much different than they were 80+ years ago.
(And I still think Tynion is a lousy writer in general.)
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Thing is, it's all very well for them to say that this changes nothing about the character's history, but I think if Alan had actually been gay all along, it might have ben reflected in one of his thought balloons, across the decades in which thought balloons were still a thing...MajorHoy wrote:I don't know if I'd used the term "forced" as opposed to "clumsily written / handled".tony ingram wrote:Really didn't like this. It just felt forced.
Then again, I've never dealt with anyone just coming out, so I'm not an authority on how these things go.
As I've said before, I'm totally not in favor of it. I understood why they made the New52/Earth 2 Alan gay (as a nod to a no-longer-then-in-continuity Obsidian), but we have Obsidian back now. Golden Age Green Lantern, as far as I'm aware, was not previously written/created to be gay, but then political agendas within the creative community are probably much different than they were 80+ years ago.
(And I still think Tynion is a lousy writer in general.)
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Not to mention what (if anything?) will happen with his wife (former wife?) Molly Mayne.tony ingram wrote:Thing is, it's all very well for them to say that this changes nothing about the character's history, but I think if Alan had actually been gay all along, it might have ben reflected in one of his thought balloons, across the decades in which thought balloons were still a thing...
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I've a feeling they may have quietly killed her off, off panel. Which would be annoying.MajorHoy wrote:Not to mention what (if anything?) will happen with his wife (former wife?) Molly Mayne.tony ingram wrote:Thing is, it's all very well for them to say that this changes nothing about the character's history, but I think if Alan had actually been gay all along, it might have ben reflected in one of his thought balloons, across the decades in which thought balloons were still a thing...
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Alan Scott and Obsidian feature in a story in the DC Pride Special. Still no mention of Molly.
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And I wonder if they'll go out of their way not to mention her for the foreseeable future.tony ingram wrote:Alan Scott and Obsidian feature in a story in the DC Pride Special. Still no mention of Molly.
Any story revealing how all that played out may not be as easy to write in a way that doesn't make Alan look like a heel.
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I was thinking that...MajorHoy wrote:And I wonder if they'll go out of their way not to mention her for the foreseeable future.tony ingram wrote:Alan Scott and Obsidian feature in a story in the DC Pride Special. Still no mention of Molly.
Any story revealing how all that played out may not be as easy to write in a way that doesn't make Alan look like a heel.
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tony ingram wrote:Alan Scott and Obsidian feature in a story in the DC Pride Special. Still no mention of Molly.
I didn't noticed this Dc Pride special in last months solicitations, was it solicited in Dc Connect or was it a "digital first"?
And was the Klaus Janson drawn story worth, in your opinion?
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It's a one-shot that DC announced back in March along with their other June comic book solicitations.Barry_Allen wrote:I didn't noticed this Dc Pride special in last months solicitations, was it solicited in Dc Connect or was it a "digital first"?tony ingram wrote:Alan Scott and Obsidian feature in a story in the DC Pride Special. Still no mention of Molly.
https://www.cbr.com/dc-comics-solicitations-june-2021/DC Pride #1
* written by James Tynion IV, Mariko Tamaki, Steve Orlando, Vita Ayala, Nicole Maines, Danny Lore, Sam Johns, Sina Grace, and Andrew Wheeler
* art by KLAUS JANSON, AMY REEDER, STEPHEN BYRNE, TRUNG LÊ NGUYEN, LUCIANo VECCHIO, LISA STERLE, RACHAEL STOTT, RO STEIN, TED BRANDT, SKYLAR PATRIDGE, AND MORE!
* cover by Jim Lee, Scott Williams, and Tamra Bonvillain
* Pride card stock variant cover by JEN BARTEL
* ON SALE 6/8/2021
* $9.99 US | 80 PAGES | Prestige | DC
* DC celebrates Pride Month with nine all-new stories starring fan-favorite LGBTQIA+ characters Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Midnighter, Extraño, Batwoman, Aqualad, Alan Scott, Obsidian, Future State Flash, Renee Montoya, Pied Piper, and many more! This anthology will also feature:
—The thrilling introduction of new hero DREAMER in the DCU (as seen on The CW’s Supergirl)!
—A pinup gallery with art by Travis Moore, Kris Anka, Kevin Wada, Sophie Campbell, Nick Robles, and more!
—Six exciting new profiles of DCTV’s LGBTQIA+ characters and the actors who play them!
It's sort of like last month's DC FESTIVAL OF HEROES: THE ASIAN SUPERHERO CELEBRATION #1 one-shot.
https://www.dccomics.com/comics/dc-festival-of-heroes-the-asian-superhero-celebration-2021/dc-festival-of-heroes-the-asian
https://www.cbr.com/dc-comics-solicitations-may-2021/
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Thanks for the info Major! With a cover price of $ 9.99 and with these "not so big" creators, apart from old Klaus Janson, I had let this special go...
And yes, I remember the Asian superhero celebration solicited but I let it go too...
And yes, I remember the Asian superhero celebration solicited but I let it go too...
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