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Post by Hourglass on Sat May 15, 2010 7:18 pm

What did you think.
For me, wow, just wow, and the revelation at the end, wow!

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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 15, 2010 8:37 pm

Really liked this episode, though I suspect it will come in for some criticism; kids being disintegrated by scary OAPs? Love it... Razz

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sat May 15, 2010 8:42 pm

did you spot the plack on the door?


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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 15, 2010 8:47 pm

Oh, nice one! Very Happy

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sat May 15, 2010 9:10 pm

So, do you think the dream lord is a certain Michael Jayson in another persona?

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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 15, 2010 9:28 pm

Hourglass wrote:So, do you think the dream lord is a certain Michael Jayson in another persona?
My money was either on the Valeyard or the Master of the Land of Fiction, but no-I think it was a new aspect of the Doctor...

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Post by Hourglass on Sat May 15, 2010 9:29 pm

Yes, yes your right, it did have a very "mind Robber" feel to it. But didn't the master of "the land of fiction" die at the end of that story?

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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 15, 2010 9:33 pm

Hourglass wrote:Yes, yes your right, it did have a very "mind Robber" feel to it. But didn't the master of "the land of fiction" die at the end of that story?
I think he was actually returned home-but the Land had a new Master when it resurfaced in the Virgin New Adventures...

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sat May 15, 2010 9:38 pm

Ooh do tell, what happened? God I wish I had a complete set of VNAs

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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 15, 2010 9:41 pm

Hourglass wrote:Ooh do tell, what happened? God I wish I had a complete set of VNAs
I won't spoil it for you: I'll just say, if you get a chance, read 'Conundrum' by Steve Lyons. It's a real treat. Very Happy

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sat May 15, 2010 9:44 pm

I'll order a copy right now. I loved his architects of history.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat May 15, 2010 9:52 pm

Hourglass wrote:I'll order a copy right now. I loved his architects of history.
You won't regret it. As a comics fan, I particularly liked the White Knight character...

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:27 pm

Doh! I missed it again! I must have had something better to do...so trivial, I can't remember! Anyway - interesting to see that little plaque above telling us (in very nice English it must be said) that this TARDIS was constructed in 1963. To me, it would have been all the more intriguing for it to have been made in say, 1492, or some other date in history. But then again, JFK was shot that weekend so maybe I missed something else!!!

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:30 pm

I suspect that they're using the Gallifreyan calendar, so 1963 may well not be our 1963. Logically, Gallifrey would have that date at some point, too-it was probably 1963 RE (Rassillonian Era) rather than 1963 AD. Cool

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:31 pm

..er, so Dr Who is REAL then.. Very Happy

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:36 pm

GBF wrote:..er, so Dr Who is REAL then.. Very Happy

Well, yes. Sorry, didn't you know that? Shocked

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:42 pm

You'll be telling me men walked on the moon next...

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:44 pm

GBF wrote:You'll be telling me men walked on the moon next...

Well, yes-the Fantastic Four and the Red Ghost, for starters!

Not those astronauts, though. I have it on good authority those photos were faked...

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 2:44 pm

Dont be stupid, you can't get past the Van Allen radiation belt.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:46 pm

Hourglass wrote:Dont be stupid, you can't get past the Van Allen radiation belt.

You can, but it gives you super powers-this is a proven scientific fact!

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:47 pm

The Van Allen belt goes past the moon - and the moon it always in the middle of it, partly due to the earth's magnetic field. And I have it on good authority that men DID walk on the moon...and my dad's BIGGER than your dad!!

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:48 pm

You all need to read my book "NoGo- The Dark Side of the Moon". Send me money and I'll send you a copy...

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:50 pm

GBF wrote:The Van Allen belt goes past the moon - and the moon it always in the middle of it, partly due to the earth's magnetic field. And I have it on good authority that men DID walk on the moon...and my dad's BIGGER than your dad!!

My dad could murder your dad with both hands tied behind his back. And a bag on his head.

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:50 pm

I should quickly add that my book is NOT about us NOT going to the moon - it's about the astronauts who missed out on going to the moon...I wouldn't want to deceive you all! pirat

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Well my mums fatter than yours so that makes us even.

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Your dad COULDN'T murder my dad - he's already dead!! So I win that one, Ingram!!!

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:52 pm

My mum's dead, too - boo hoo. But she wasn't fat, in fact, she was very slim!

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:52 pm

GBF wrote:I should quickly add that my book is NOT about us NOT going to the moon - it's about the astronauts who missed out on going to the moon...I wouldn't want to deceive you all! pirat
Wouldn't that be rather a lot of astronauts? How many actually did go to the moon?

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 2:54 pm

Is it true many suffered illness after vising? I read somewhere it damages the spine in later life.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 2:55 pm

GBF wrote:My mum's dead, too - boo hoo. But she wasn't fat, in fact, she was very slim!
My mu's dead, as well. She wasn't fat, either-though she was quite short.

Sadly, my dad's still very much with us. A bit too often in fact, as he lives round the corner.

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Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 2:57 pm

My mums alive and lives up the road. My dad has currently fled Bangkok to Pattaya.

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Re: Amy's Choice

Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 2:59 pm

Borman, Lovell (twice), Anders, Stafford, Young (twice), Cernan (twice), Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins, Conrad, Bean, Gordon, Haise, Swigert, Shepard, Roosa, Mitchell, Scott, Irwin, Worden, Duke, Mattingly, Schmidt, Evans

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:00 pm

My book details what happened to certain crew members who would have flown Apollo but died in training before going, thus allowing some of the names above to go.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 3:01 pm

GBF wrote:Borman, Lovell (twice), Anders, Stafford, Young (twice), Cernan (twice), Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins, Conrad, Bean, Gordon, Haise, Swigert, Shepard, Roosa, Mitchell, Scott, Irwin, Worden, Duke, Mattingly, Schmidt, Evans
Rather more than I thought...

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Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 3:01 pm

My question is, having "got" to the moon my question is, why did they stop? Yes it's expensive but it seems quite odd after getting there we havent really expanded on that achievement.

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Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 3:02 pm

Glenn how much is your book?

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:06 pm

The astronauts who went to the moon all changed upon their return - and who wouldn't. I've never read anything about damaging the spine. The only 'direct' casualty was probably Jim Irwin, who flew on Apollo 15 and was the eighth man to walk on the moon. Apparently he suffered heart problems whilst ON the moon - minor at that, but it was touch and go he would survive the trip home. He was later plagued with heart problems ( I think he had four hearts attacks following his return). He died, surprisingly from a heart attack in 1990 - the first moonwalker to die. The first man to die who flown to the moon was Jack Swigert, Command Module Pilot on Apollo 13. He died in 1982 from cancer aged 50.

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:10 pm

I'll sort out the book for you - you don't have to pay. The reason the yanks stopped going to the moon is because they only went there because those pesky Rooskies were going to beat them to it. And, it has been revealed since the 'wall' came down, the Soviet Union weren't going anytime soon and used it as a political way of bankrupting America. Don't forget, Viet Nam was raging at the same time, costing the tax payer $350 BILLION. The Mercury, Gemini, Apollo program cost a mere $25 BILLION. That's a serious amount of dosh!

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:14 pm

Charlie Duke of Apollo 16 (whom I had the pleasure of interviewing a few years ago) told me that if the political will had been there, and the money, the USA would have been on MARS by 1985. And he would have gone on a mission. NASA was ready. The men were ready, the Saturn V rockets were on order and then the gravitational pull of Venus (always ready!) would be used to 'sling shot' the Mars capsule to that planet. So - the first men (and women) to Mars (whenever they go) will also be the first people to Venus...staggering, mind blowing stuff!!

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 3:17 pm

If they ever go. Puzzlingly, space exploration seems to be a low priority these days...

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Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 3:18 pm

Such a shame they didn't. Mars is a very interesting planet indeed. I wonder how much a mission to Mars today would cost, I suspect A LOT more.

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:24 pm

It's going to take the Chinese confirming their plans to land on the moon around 1018 (not long away!). Then watch the yanks move! As a nation, the US needs to be behind before they do something. To their credit, they don't like being second - unlike GB, they want to win, not 'take part'. When the Chinese make their announcement, we'll see a joint effort from US/Russia to the moon if only because the yanks don't have a launch vehicle! The shuttle era ends in a couple of missions. Put another way - the nation that put men on the moon 40 years ago, can't get into space without the help of an old enemy! Moreover, the nation that put the first MAN into space, does not now exist! I find that incredible if not outrageous!!

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:25 pm

..oops - I mean 2018...

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Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 3:48 pm

Anyway, back onto Amys choice.
Do you think, given the strange nature of the series that the world the doctor woke up in could still be a dream?

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 3:49 pm

Hourglass wrote:Anyway, back onto Amys choice.
Do you think, given the strange nature of the series that the world the doctor woke up in could still be a dream?
I think that point was left deliberately ambiguous.

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:53 pm

A trip to Mars is interesting. The command module would probably take 12 astronauts/scientists to Mars. Buzz Aldrin has proposed an ingenious plan for fuel consumption. As you may know Apollo used a lot of fuel and all the components of the vehicle were only used once. With a Mars flight it would be a lot different. Aldrin proposed a 'space taxi' system. In short: a major booster to get the crew and CM into Earth orbit. Blast off to Venus (lots of fuel), when at Venus, go into a long, arc around the planet, take photos, do some experiments etc, as the spacecraft picks up speed (using Venus' gravity) and gets 'thrown' to where Mars will be in about 3 months. As the spacecraft approaches Mars, use the remaining fuel to slow the vehicle down enough to be 'captured' by Mars' gravity, but not attain orbit. As the vehicle is now stuck in a similar long arc above Mars, crew members (probably three groups of three) go down to different areas of Mars and continue their mission on the ground, setting up bases etc. The remaining three astronauts aboard the vehicle and the vehicle itself are 'thrown' back to Earth. When they get there, more astronauts fly up to the vehicle and get thrown back to Mars. When they arrive, the first lot come back up and the others go down. This is why the missions will not need a lot of fuel. That's the simple explanation - how they actually do it - well, I have no idea..!

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Post by GBF on Sun May 16, 2010 3:55 pm

...and I forgot to ask - who the hell's Amy??? affraid

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Post by Hourglass on Sun May 16, 2010 3:58 pm

or what is Amy.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 4:05 pm

GBF wrote:...and I forgot to ask - who the hell's Amy??? affraid
Tall girl, red hair, been in every episode this year.

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Post by tony ingram on Sun May 16, 2010 4:05 pm

Hourglass wrote:or what is Amy.
Tall girl, red hair, bit flaky.

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