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Post by tony ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:31 pm

Marvel replacing their major characters with new versions is nothing new. Steve Rogers has been replaced as Captain America for lengthy runs on two occasions (and for a briefer run on a third) and is apparently about to be again, Tony Stark gave up the Iron Man suit for a time, and even Spider-Man has spent the last few months brain swapped with Dr Octopus. But the new Thor (who is certainly not the first, or even the second, substitute Thor Marvel have given us) is breaking new ground...by getting a sex change! So, my question is:if Marvel wanted a female Thor, why not just use established character Thor Girl? And is anyone really going to take this seriously?
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Post by Silogramsam Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:33 pm

why not just use established character Thor Girl? wrote:

really? 2 words: P R

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Post by tony ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:34 pm

Poor Research?  Razz 
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Post by Silogramsam Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:34 pm

Thor: Goddess of Thunder? Hot_Stuff_the_Little_Devilnext Daredevil is being replaced by
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Post by tony ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:35 pm

Aww, I miss Hot Stuff!
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Post by Silogramsam Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:36 pm

Poor Research? wrote:
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Post by tony ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:39 pm

I could see Jane Foster being really upset about this.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:09 pm

Yes, I bet nobody asked her if that was what she would like.
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Post by Mbast1 Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:32 pm

tony ingram wrote:And is anyone really going to take this seriously?

Given that we're talking superheroes, I'm not sure how seriously I'd take any of it. I don't see why this in particular would be more or less serious than anything else.
But, with this, why not? He's either an alien or a god, who knows what that means in terms of sex-fluidity? I say all that matters is if the story is good.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:24 pm

Yes, and women can be righteous and worthy and hit people with big hammers too!
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Post by MajorHoy Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:30 pm

tony ingram wrote:I could see Jane Foster being really upset about this.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:17 pm

Yay! Girl power!
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Post by tony ingram Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:21 am

At this rate, Sif will probably become the new Hercules.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:34 am

And why not?
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Post by tony ingram Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:03 pm

I suppose if the petite Jane Foster shaved her head, she could become a little Balder.
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Post by MajorHoy Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:40 pm

tony ingram wrote:I suppose if the petite Jane Foster shaved her head, she could become a little Balder.  
Will refrain from possibly crude and sexist comments . . .

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Post by tony ingram Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:24 pm

Oh, go on.
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Post by Mbast1 Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:35 pm

tony ingram wrote:I suppose if the petite Jane Foster shaved her head, she could become a little Balder.  

That was awful. Probably why I liked it.
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Post by MajorHoy Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:38 am

Is there any chance this Fem-Thor could just be Thor himself in disguise? (Hey, there was this myth where Thor disguised himself as a woman to reclaim his hammer . . . )
http://www.shmoop.com/theft-thors-hammer/
http://www.oocities.org/mperemsky/mythology/norse/story_theftofthorshammer.html
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Post by tony ingram Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:59 am

MajorHoy wrote:Is there any chance this Fem-Thor could just be Thor himself in disguise? (Hey, there was this myth where Thor disguised himself as a woman to reclaim his hammer . . . )
http://www.shmoop.com/theft-thors-hammer/
http://www.oocities.org/mperemsky/mythology/norse/story_theftofthorshammer.html
No. Now that more information has emerged, it appears the original Thor will still be around, but will no longer be the god of thunder. It's to do with the inscription on the hammer about "whomsoever be worthy" getting the power of Thor. Supposedly, Thor is no longer worthy and can't lift the hammer, and this new character picks it up.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:36 am

So what does Thor do to make himself unworthy?
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Post by tony ingram Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:39 am

We don't know, yet...
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Post by Lucy Ingram Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:47 am

I reckon he trod on a puppy.
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Post by MajorHoy Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:57 am

tony ingram wrote: . . . Supposedly, Thor is no longer worthy and can't lift the hammer, and this new character picks it up.
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Post by tony ingram Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:57 am

Lucy McGough wrote:I reckon he trod on a puppy.
"Getteth your poxy animal out of my godly way!" (kick)

"yelp"
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Post by Lucy Ingram Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:57 am

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:I reckon he trod on a puppy.
"Getteth your poxy animal out of my godly way!" (kick)

"yelp"
This is genius Very Happy
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Post by Silogramsam Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:26 pm

This is genius wrote:
apparently, the bar for "genius" isn't that high over there..
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Post by Lucy Ingram Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:11 pm

We're a small island. We take what we can get.
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Post by Silogramsam Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:30 pm

Thor: Goddess of Thunder? Genius
hell, we've got bars full of geniuses over here; don't they on your side of the big water?
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Post by tony ingram Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:37 pm

Those blokes can't be that bright. They haven't even realised their bar has no alcohol.
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Post by Lucy Ingram Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:57 pm

Silogramsam wrote:
hell, we've got bars full of geniuses over here; don't they on your side of the big water?
We've got bars full of people who think they're geniuses, especially after the third pint. Does that count?
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Post by Silogramsam Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:46 pm

Those blokes can't be that bright. They haven't even realised their bar has no alcohol. wrote:

do those guys look like they'd drink anything stronger than Coca-Cola?
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Post by Silogramsam Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:48 pm

We've got bars full of people who think they're geniuses, especially after the third pint. wrote:

We've got plenty of people who think they're geniuses without the alcohol. Most of them are talking heads on CNN, Fox News, etc. At least, then, we know where they are and can easily avoid them (sort of like crossing the street to avoid someone unseemly).
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Post by Lucy Ingram Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:10 pm

In this country you'll find them in the houses of parliament.
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Post by Silogramsam Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:50 pm

In this country you'll find them in the houses of parliament. wrote:
at least they have some rules that they're supposed to adhere to, in theory anyway
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Post by Lucy Ingram Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:26 pm

Apart from when they're claiming expenses.
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Post by MajorHoy Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:48 pm

Anywho, Thorie (as I'm probably going to refer to her) is due out next month.

http://www.newsarama.com/22047-thor-1-first-look-debuts-new-female-thor.html

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Post by Lucy Ingram Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:39 pm

Her name is Thor.
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Post by MajorHoy Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:42 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Her name is Thor.
So is his.

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And he had the name a few centuries longer. Wink
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Post by Mbast1 Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:56 am

MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Her name is Thor.
And he had the name a few centuries longer. Wink

Two people can't have the same name?
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Post by tony ingram Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:09 am

Mbast1 wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Her name is Thor.
And he had the name a few centuries longer. Wink

Two people can't have the same name?
I know two people called Dave...
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Post by MajorHoy Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:03 pm

tony ingram wrote:
Mbast1 wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Her name is Thor.
And he had the name a few centuries longer. Wink
Two people can't have the same name?
I know two people called Dave...
Then they must have a death duel to see which one can keep the name "Dave" and which will have to be known by Osgood Dullsworth.
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Post by tony ingram Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:45 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:
Mbast1 wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Her name is Thor.
And he had the name a few centuries longer. Wink
Two people can't have the same name?
I know two people called Dave...
Then they must have a death duel to see which one can keep the name "Dave" and which will have to be known by Osgood Dullsworth.
I reckon Dave Bateman will win. Dave Mullet's got to be 65 if he's a day. Osgood Dullsworth would suit him, too.
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Post by MajorHoy Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:56 pm

tony ingram wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I know two people called Dave...
Then they must have a death duel to see which one can keep the name "Dave" and which will have to be known by Osgood Dullsworth.
I reckon Dave Bateman will win. Dave Mullet's got to be 65 if he's a day. Osgood Dullsworth would suit him, too.
His last name's "mullet"?

Does he wear his hair in that style, too?

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Post by karatattoo Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:21 am

I enjoyed reading the Jane Foster Thor stories.

What do any you think about Natalie Portman becoming Thor in the recently announced Thor: Love and Thunder film?

I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by tony ingram Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:47 am

karatattoo wrote:I enjoyed reading the Jane Foster Thor stories.

What do any you think about Natalie Portman becoming Thor in the recently announced Thor: Love and Thunder film?

I'm looking forward to it.
It should be interesting, though I'm not sure how the mainstream movie audience will respond after how divisive it was to the comics audience...
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Post by karatattoo Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:22 pm

When it comes to comic books, films and TV, or politics, everything nowadays is divisive.

I think the comics audience and the movie audience are two very different entities.

Most people only know any of these characters through their film incarnations, so their reactions may be not be the same as those familiar with comic books.

We'll just have to wait and see.

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