5:45 in the morning

Accidentally stayed up all night reading Watchmen for the first time.

Lucy McGough wrote:Accidentally stayed up all night reading Watchmen for the first time.

Understandable enough. So-what did you think of it?

Has anybody seen 'The Black Freighter' - the separate film from the comic book in Watchmen?

GBF wrote:Has anybody seen 'The Black Freighter' - the separate film from the comic book in Watchmen?

The DVDs on my 'must have' list, but I haven't actually bought it yet.

tony ingram wrote:Understandable enough. So-what did you think of it?

It was really, really good. Now I want to read V for Vendetta.

Lucy McGough wrote:

tony ingram wrote:Understandable enough. So-what did you think of it?

It was really, really good. Now I want to read V for Vendetta.

Working your way through the Moore back catalogue-I approve...

I've changed my mind about V for Vendetta. I don't like the artwork.

Lucy McGough wrote:I've changed my mind about V for Vendetta. I don't like the artwork.

The tone was dark, but I thought it was quite good.

Have you thought about giving it another try?

I think Lloyd's art is an acquired taste, but I've always liked it, myself. It has a very film noir feel, I think. I do think it looked better in black and white, though.

I got round to liking it in the end.

Lucy McGough wrote:I got round to liking it in the end.

So, what's next on the hit list to tackle?

More League of Extraordinary Gentlemen stuff, now that I've read From Hell.

Lucy McGough wrote:now that I've read From Hell.

I think From Hell might be his best work, so far. It's better than Watchmen, has more depth, is more interesting and well told, more thoughtful. All around amazing.

Mbast1 wrote:

Lucy McGough wrote:now that I've read From Hell.

I think From Hell might be his best work, so far. It's better than Watchmen, has more depth, is more interesting and well told, more thoughtful. All around amazing.

I think there's so much diversity in Moore's work that it's difficult to say what's his "best". It really depends on what mood you're in at the time, what kind of story you're after at that moment.

tony ingram wrote:I think there's so much diversity in Moore's work that it's difficult to say what's his "best". It really depends on what mood you're in at the time, what kind of story you're after at that moment.

True, and that's why I think he's the best writer the medium's seen. That said, I think From Hell stands out in terms of depth, technique and quality. And from him, that's something.

Is there anything of Moore's you haven't read yet?

Mbast1 wrote:I think From Hell stands out in terms of depth, technique and quality. And from him, that's something.

It's certainly incredibly well-researched.

tony ingram wrote:Is there anything of Moore's you haven't read yet?

A fair bit, actually. If that was aimed at me.

Mbast1 wrote:

tony ingram wrote:Is there anything of Moore's you haven't read yet?

A fair bit, actually. If that was aimed at me.

So what's still on your must read list?

tony ingram wrote:So what's still on your must read list?

Jerusalem, at the moment. I still need to read Voice of the Fire all the way through. There's a lot of his comic work I own but haven't read, or can't find yet. Halo Jones I own on PDF, for example, but have only skimmed the first chapter.
I actually don't know that I want to read it all, to some degree. I like knowing there's still more of his work out there for me. I know that's weird.

Halo Jones is something every fan of Moore's work should read, in my opinion. But that could just be because it made an impact on me at a very impressionable age.

No, it's as near to objectively true as you can get with an opinion about fiction.

Lucy McGough wrote:No, it's as near to objectively true as you can get with an opinion about fiction.

I bought beat up copies off Ebay, just to have reading copies. NOW, I just need the time.

There's never enough, is there?

Lucy McGough wrote:There's never enough, is there?

No, never. For al the things I want to read, watch and do, there will never be enough. Slightly depressing.

It's a shame if 'stuff I want to enjoy' becomes 'stuff I have to cross off my to-do list'.

Mbast1 wrote:

tony ingram wrote:So what's still on your must read list?

Jerusalem, at the moment. I still need to read Voice of the Fire all the way through. There's a lot of his comic work I own but haven't read, or can't find yet. Halo Jones I own on PDF, for example, but have only skimmed the first chapter.
I actually don't know that I want to read it all, to some degree. I like knowing there's still more of his work out there for me. I know that's weird.

Same for me, Mike! Btw I had read a very old edition of Halo Jones several years ago and now
I have a recent Uk edition which was also sold newstand by Eaglemoss, if I remember well, and it's still on the "unread" pile of books!
It was also recently published in Italian too, as the Jerusalem novel but this last one is a little....long!

Barry_Allen wrote:

Mbast1 wrote:

tony ingram wrote:So what's still on your must read list?

Jerusalem, at the moment. I still need to read Voice of the Fire all the way through. There's a lot of his comic work I own but haven't read, or can't find yet. Halo Jones I own on PDF, for example, but have only skimmed the first chapter.
I actually don't know that I want to read it all, to some degree. I like knowing there's still more of his work out there for me. I know that's weird.

Same for me, Mike! Btw I had read a very old edition of Halo Jones several years ago and now
I have a recent Uk edition which was also sold newstand by Eaglemoss, if I remember well, and it's still on the "unread" pile of books!
It was also recently published in Italian too, as the Jerusalem novel but this last one is a little....long!  

Was the latest Halo Jones reprint part of a partwork?

Yes, the Uk edition was the 2nd issue of "2000AD The Ultimate Collection" which came out in 2017 by Hachette Uk (not Eaglemoss, I was wrong before, I have checked it now) at £ 6.99 and whose 1st issue was a Slaine book by Biz' for £ 1.99. I remember subsequent issues were offered through Previews Uk at £ 9.99, too. Here's the short (20 seconds long) trailer:

Barry_Allen wrote:Yes, the Uk edition was the 2nd issue of "2000AD The Ultimate Collection" which came out in 2017 by Hachette Uk (not Eaglemoss, I was wrong before, I have checked it now) at £ 6.99 and whose 1st issue was a Slaine book by Biz' for £ 1.99. I remember subsequent issues were offered through Previews Uk at £ 9.99, too. Here's the short (20 seconds long) trailer:

This was the follow up to the Judge Dredd Mega Collection. Lucy has a complete collection of that, but we decided to skip the Ultimate Collection since I have a complete run of 2000 AD anyway. That £1.99 first issue with Slaine really irritated Pat Mills, as he didn't get any reprint royalties for it.

You mean you have a complete run of 2000 AD from issue one to the current one?!?
As with Pat Mills, I understand that not only Marvel and Disney (also here in Italy) have (had) a problem with paying the right reprint royalties...

Barry_Allen wrote:You mean you have a complete run of 2000 AD from issue one to the current one?!?

I do indeed. As well as complete runs of its two early sister titles, Starlord and Tornado. And its later sister title, Crisis. And the annuals, the specials...well, you get the idea...

tony ingram wrote: I do indeed. As well as complete runs of its two early sister titles, Starlord and Tornado. And its later sister title, Crisis. And the annuals, the specials...well, you get the idea...

Wow, that's really impressive Tony!
I remember reading good things about that mag Crisis on italian comic magazines reviews at time, and I have also bought some Uk annuals of Dc characters during the years; I was always curious about this kind of hardcovers and the stories they contained, we don't have those annuals here and they're also very different from their American counterparts too!

Barry_Allen wrote:

tony ingram wrote: I do indeed. As well as complete runs of its two early sister titles, Starlord and Tornado. And its later sister title, Crisis. And the annuals, the specials...well, you get the idea...

Wow, that's really impressive Tony!
I remember reading good things about that mag Crisis on italian comic magazines reviews at time, and I have also bought some Uk annuals of Dc characters during the years; I was always curious about this kind of hardcovers and the stories they contained, we don't have those annuals here and they're also very different from their American counterparts too!

Hardcover annuals are a British tradition going back to at least the early 1900's. They tended to turn up as Christmas gifts, most kids would get at least one every year for much of the 20th century. I always looked forward to the 2000 AD, Judge Dredd and Doctor Who Annuals, and also Spider-Man (US reprints mixed with UK originated text stories), but there were also various humour annuals (Beano, Dandy, Whoopee! and others), Dan Dare, Eagle, Battle...too many to list, really! The Beano, Dandy and Doctor Who Annuals are about the only ones still being published regularly, these days.

tony ingram wrote:...The Beano, Dandy and Doctor Who Annuals are about the only ones still being published regularly, these days.  

Thanks for the kind explanation Tony, I remember buying also Flash and Batman Annuals in the past but you forgot actually the Viz and especially the Peppa Pig Annuals!

Barry_Allen wrote:

tony ingram wrote:...The Beano, Dandy and Doctor Who Annuals are about the only ones still being published regularly, these days.  

Thanks for the kind explanation Tony, I remember buying also Flash and Batman Annuals in the past but you forgot actually the Viz and especially the Peppa Pig Annuals!

Hah! I guess I did. Oddly enough, I've never bought either of those...

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Mbast1 wrote: and it's still on the "unread" pile of books!

That "pile" is HUGE for me.

tony ingram wrote:

Barry_Allen wrote:You mean you have a complete run of 2000 AD from issue one to the current one?!?

I do indeed. As well as complete runs of its two early sister titles, Starlord and Tornado. And its later sister title, Crisis. And the annuals, the specials...well, you get the idea...

That's what I like about this place, I don't feel so bad about all the stuff I have lying around...

Mbast1 wrote:

tony ingram wrote:

Barry_Allen wrote:You mean you have a complete run of 2000 AD from issue one to the current one?!?

I do indeed. As well as complete runs of its two early sister titles, Starlord and Tornado. And its later sister title, Crisis. And the annuals, the specials...well, you get the idea...

That's what I like about this place, I don't feel so bad about all the stuff I have lying around...