Re: Who is Better (Character Comparison Thread)

[tony ingram]

But, but, but... the word 'you' is totally unnecessary in that sentence

Bah. Get thee hence!  

[Lucy Ingram]

What is a hence and where do I get one from?

[Mbast1]

I think that's pretty much what happened. It was either that or the joke about Rebecca Adlington.

Which joke I didn't get. I admit, I thought the one about the Queen was funny, but I'm an American. And, for a reason I can't explain, I have a very broad but sometimes mean sense of humor. Which bothers me, but I can't seem to change it.

[Mbast1]

but is that what really happened or what people assume happened?

Everything I've read (I wanted to know why he wasn't on the newer ones) says that that is what happened. He said the BBC fired him for making jokes some people didn't like, and seemed to have backed up the observations some made.

[Mbast1]

He's something of an acquired taste, I think.

I listened to one of his comedy concerts. Yeah, he's a bit raw, but I mostly liked it.

[MajorHoy]

What is a hence and where do I get one from?

You mean you never sang a song of six hence? (But why kiddies would have rye whiskey in their pockets never made any sense to me.)

[tony ingram]

What is a hence and where do I get one from?

You mean you never sang a song of six hence? (But why kiddies would have rye whiskey in their pockets never made any sense to me.)

I don't think it was actually intended to be whiskey. Not according to Agatha Christie, anyway.
Although with Christie, you never could tell...

[MajorHoy]

What is a hence and where do I get one from?

You mean you never sang a song of six hence? (But why kiddies would have rye whiskey in their pockets never made any sense to me.)

I don't think it was actually intended to be whiskey. Not according to Agatha Christie, anyway.
Although with Christie, you never could tell...

Crocked off her rocker, eh?

[Lucy Ingram]

Everything I've read (I wanted to know why he wasn't on the newer ones) says that that is what happened. He said the BBC fired him for making jokes some people didn't like, and seemed to have backed up the observations some made.

Yeah, there was one of those Daily Mail-led faux-outrage campaigns.

[MajorHoy]

Everything I've read (I wanted to know why he wasn't on the newer ones) says that that is what happened. He said the BBC fired him for making jokes some people didn't like, and seemed to have backed up the observations some made.

Yeah, there was one of those Daily Mail-led faux-outrage campaigns.

Was the Daily Mail ever caught up in those phone-hacking scandals?

[Mbast1]

Yeah, there was one of those Daily Mail-led faux-outrage campaigns.

So, is the Daily Mail like Fox here, where old people are conned into reacting to anything some of them don't like by complaining about the end of the world, and trying to stop anything from making them realize it's not the 1950s?

[tony ingram]

Yeah, there was one of those Daily Mail-led faux-outrage campaigns.

So, is the Daily Mail like Fox here, where old people are conned into reacting to anything some of them don't like by complaining about the end of the world, and trying to stop anything from making them realize it's not the 1950s?

I think you've got the basic idea. Essentially: immigrants, foreigners, people on benefits and anyone in a political party are all out to destroy Britain, and what we really need to do is round them all up and hang them from lamp posts.

[Lucy Ingram]

Also, everything in the universe either causes or cures cancer. The Daily Mail is the paper of hypochondriacs.

[MajorHoy]

Also, everything in the universe either causes or cures cancer. The Daily Mail is the paper of hypochondriacs.

But does it have gratuitous shots of women wearing next-to-nothing?

[tony ingram]

Also, everything in the universe either causes or cures cancer. The Daily Mail is the paper of hypochondriacs.

But does it have gratuitous shots of women wearing next-to-nothing?

Nah, you're thinking of The Sun. Or possibly The Star.

[Lucy Ingram]

Also, everything in the universe either causes or cures cancer. The Daily Mail is the paper of hypochondriacs.

But does it have gratuitous shots of women wearing next-to-nothing?

Yes — on its website.

[MajorHoy]

Back on topic:

Sub-Mariner


or

Aquaman

[Lucy Ingram]

Aquaman, the way he looked when he was was in Grant Morrison's JLA.

[tony ingram]

Subby, for me. He's Marvel's original mutant hero, he can fly and command behemoths from the deep. Aquaman, on the other hand, talks to haddock.

[Lucy Ingram]

Aquaman can totally command whales and dolphins and giant squid and all sorts! Also, he has a hook for a hand.

[tony ingram]

Aquaman can totally command whales and dolphins and giant squid and all sorts! Also, he has a hook for a hand.

Only 90s Aquaman had a hook. But Namor has always had the Horn of Proteus. And wings on his feet.

[Lucy Ingram]

(a) Aquaman don't need no snecking horn. He can summon sea creatures using the power of his mind alone. This makes him objectively better than Namor, since he doesn't need accessories.
(b) What kind of marine deity/superhero has winged feet? Winged sandals are an attribute of Mercury, for crying out loud!
(c) Nineties Aquaman (as written by Grant Morrison) is my favo(u)rite Aquaman.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102692/3346103-1353965-aquaman3.jpg

[tony ingram]

(a) Aquaman don't need no snecking horn. He can summon sea creatures using the power of his mind alone. This makes him objectively better than Namor, since he doesn't need accessories.
(b) What kind of marine deity/superhero has winged feet? Winged sandals are an attribute of Mercury, for crying out loud!
(c) Nineties Aquaman (as written by Grant Morrison) is my favo(u)rite Aquaman.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102692/3346103-1353965-aquaman3.jpg

Yes. There's nothing quite as impressive as a bloke who spends his entire life swimming underwater, who nonetheless inexplicaby chooses to wear pointless but extremely heavy metal body armour on just one arm and side. Because that's not going to hamper his movement or drag him down in any way.

[Lucy Ingram]

Who cares? It looks cool!

[MajorHoy]

Who cares? It looks cool!

Do you also wear ridiculously painful and impractical mile-high stiletto high heels because "they look bitchin' cool"?

[Lucy Ingram]

I know I'll never look cool, but I'm not the king of Atlantis.

[MajorHoy]

Okay, how about . . .





Robin?

* Golden Age Dick (who grew up to become . . . Robin)


* Silver / Bronze / Modern Age Dick (who grew up to become . . . Nightwing)

* Jason Todd (who died and became . . . Red Hood)

* Tim Drake (who became Red Robin, but now was never "adjective-less-Robin")

* Stephanie Brown (Spoiler / Robin / Batgirl / back to Spoiler soon)

* Damian Wayne (who grew up to become . . . no, wait, he didn't grow up; he's dead at the moment)

* Carrie Kelley (from The Dark Knight Returns)


* Helena Wayne (from New 52 Earth 2; became Huntress on Prime Earth.)


That should be enough . . . we won't worry about the others.

[tony ingram]

Robin of Earth Two, without a doubt.

[Mbast1]

Okay, how about . . .

I always liked the Golden Age Robin. Final costume, and Ambassador. Thought it was cool.

[MajorHoy]

Okay, how about . . .

I always liked the Golden Age Robin. Final costume, and Ambassador. Thought it was cool.

[Philip K Ditko]

The pre-Crisis Jason Todd, as written by Doug Moench, was the only Robin I liked.

[tony ingram]

The pre-Crisis Jason Todd, as written by Doug Moench, was the only Robin I liked.

I liked the original Jason (though not as much as the Earth Two Dick Grayson). Sadly, his post-COIE (or rather, post-Batman #400) incarnation was an obnoxious waste of space.

[MajorHoy]

The pre-Crisis Jason Todd, as written by Doug Moench, was the only Robin I liked.

I liked the original Jason (though not as much as the Earth Two Dick Grayson). Sadly, his post-COIE (or rather, post-Batman #400) incarnation was an obnoxious waste of space.

But his pre-CoIE version was such a Dick-clone, right down to the circus background and parents killed by a bad guy (in this case, it was Croc when he was actually a criminal mastermind and not some dimwit hiding in the sewers all the time).

[tony ingram]

Maybe, but I still liked him better. Maybe it was just Moench's great writing on that run. It's still my favourite era for Batman.

[Lucy Ingram]

Stephanie Brown, just because.

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