Wonder Woman

by MLP* Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:47 pm

Another day, another DC anniversary issue.

I picked up Wonder Woman issue #600.

Was an avid viewer of the Lynda Carter series as a kid and a reader of George Perez's eighties run on the comic. Nice to see them both in this anniversary issue. Smile

The format is similar to Superman # 700. A selection of short stories leading into JMS's new run on the title.
The stories are lightweight but entertaining. The first sees a team up with various DC female superheroes and seems to be a final tie up of Perez's run. The second is a Superman / Wonder Woman cross over.

There are some very nice pin ups showcasing the soon to be abandoned cheesecake Wonder Woman costume. Smile

Having now seen the new costume in action, I'm still not very impressed, although there is what I assume to be a preview of a painted cover at the back of the comic where it doesn't look too bad. Either way, I don't really anticipate the new look sticking around for too long.

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by **tony ingram** Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:30 pm

This is a gimmick, nothing more-it'll be lucky to last six months. Wonder Woman has had new costumes in the past, at least twice, and they've not stuck. Her look is iconic, they'd be fools to try to ditch it for good.

by Lucy Ingram Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:26 pm

I like the new look, but Tony's right - it probably won't last.

by MajorHoy Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:54 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:I like the new look, but Tony's right - it probably won't last.

Well, of course it wasn't going to last . . . JMS doesn't stay on projects very long before he gets bored or something, does he?

I've really enjoyed the New 52 version . . . bummer that Azzarello and Chiang are leaving that title.

by **tony ingram** Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:48 am

MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:I like the new look, but Tony's right - it probably won't last.
Well, of course it wasn't going to last . . . JMS doesn't stay on projects very long before he gets bored or something, does he?

I've really enjoyed the New 52 version . . . bummer that Azzarello and Chiang are leaving that title.

Predictably, I never read it. Wonder Woman died in September 2011.

by Lucy Ingram Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:03 am

Hey, the New 52 version wasn't that bad, although some feminists got angry that Wonder Woman's origin was retconned so that she was the daughter of Zeus, i.e. the product of a sexual liaison.

by **tony ingram** Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:07 am

To be honest, aside from George Perez's run, the only Wonder Woman I ever really cared about was the Earth Two version back before COIE.

by Lucy Ingram Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:49 am

by **tony ingram** Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:16 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Why?

Because she was the one I was reading about when I got into DC. When the Wonder Woman TV series started, it was set in World War II, and DC decided to capitalize on that by turning the Wonder Woman comic over to adventures of the the Earth Two Wonder Woman in that setting (from February 1977 to May 1978). I loved that run, but lost interest in the book after that when it went back to being about the Earth One Wonder Woman and only really ever read it for the Huntress back-up feature after that, until Perez revamped the character in 1987.

by MajorHoy Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:37 pm

tony ingram wrote:To be honest, aside from George Perez's run, the only Wonder Woman I ever really cared about was the Earth Two version back before COIE.

And let's not forget her run as a feature in World's Finest during that time as well, where we were introduced to . . .

Baron Blitzkrieg!

And there was that gorgeous Superman and WW in World War II special:

Hopefully they all made it your way at some point.

by **tony ingram** Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:42 pm

All except the collectors edition, I never found a copy of that.
My favourite was this one, though.

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by Lucy Ingram Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:46 pm

That's pretty funny Very Happy

by **tony ingram** Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:47 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:That's pretty funny

And DC did it 35 years before Steven Moffat used the idea in Doctor Who.

by MajorHoy Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:19 pm

Oh, why not a few more . . .

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which had some unexpected but always enjoyable Bob Brown artwork inside!

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by **tony ingram** Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:24 pm

See, that was when comics weren't ashamed to look like comics. And looked so much better as a result.

by MajorHoy Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:49 pm

tony ingram wrote:See, that was when comics weren't ashamed to look like comics. And looked so much better as a result.

You're preaching to the choir on that topic . . .

by Lucy Ingram Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:02 pm

Got any covers where she isn't trapped and helpless? Love the one where she's like, "I'll push my boobs at the glass to try and break it!"

by **tony ingram** Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:14 pm

Trapped and helpless was kind of a tradition on Wonder Woman covers. They were keeping Marston's spirit alive...

by Lucy Ingram Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:22 pm

Ah, bless

by **tony ingram** Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:26 pm

Anyway, how do you know that isn't exactly what Diana is planning to do on that cover? She's Wonder Woman. No plexiglass tube should be a match for her boobs of steel. When you're a superhero, you have to be able to think on your feet.

by karatattoo Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:00 pm

So... did she break the glass?

by MajorHoy Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:25 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Got any covers where she isn't trapped and helpless? Love the one where she's like, "I'll push my boobs at the glass to try and break it!"

This time, Dr. Mid-Nite is the one who's "trapped and helpless". Wink

by **tony ingram** Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:01 pm

I love the line "Dr. Mid-Nite in action" when he looks utterly inept...

by MajorHoy Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:36 pm

Another comic book around that time was Steel, the Indestructible Man.

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I had always wished they had a Wonder Woman meets Steel cross-over back in the days of WW II.

by **tony ingram** Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:57 am

I liked that book. It only lasted five issues. I still remember that little thrill of excitement I felt when he returned unexpectedly in All-Star Squadron a few years later.

by Lucy Ingram Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:54 am

tony ingram wrote:I love the line "Dr. Mid-Nite in action" when he looks utterly inept...

Maybe it was meant to read 'Dr Mid-Nite inaction'.

by **tony ingram** Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:17 am

Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I love the line "Dr. Mid-Nite in action" when he looks utterly inept...
Maybe it was meant to read 'Dr Mid-Nite inaction'.

That seems more likely, in the circumstances.

by MajorHoy Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:58 pm

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I love the line "Dr. Mid-Nite in action" when he looks utterly inept...
Maybe it was meant to read 'Dr Mid-Nite inaction'.
That seems more likely, in the circumstances.

But they might have been tring to avoid that since he was sort-of handicapped normally.

by **tony ingram** Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:01 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:I love the line "Dr. Mid-Nite in action" when he looks utterly inept...
Maybe it was meant to read 'Dr Mid-Nite inaction'.
That seems more likely, in the circumstances.
But they might have been trying to avoid that since he was sort-of handicapped normally.

Poor Doc never got any respect (look at how they killed him off).

by Lucy Ingram Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:50 pm

How did they kill him off? Did he walk into a lamppost or something?

by **tony ingram** Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:46 am

Lucy McGough wrote:How did they kill him off? Did he walk into a lamppost or something?

He died off-panel during the Zero Hour event. A sad fate for a character who'd been around for over fifty years. The only acknowledgement his passing got was the line "but we couldn't save Dr. Mid-Nite".

by MajorHoy Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:19 pm

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:How did they kill him off? Did he walk into a lamppost or something?
He died off-panel during the Zero Hour event. A sad fate for a character who'd been around for over fifty years. The only acknowledgement his passing got was the line "but we couldn't save Dr. Mid-Nite".

by **tony ingram** Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:32 pm

Doc actually died off-panel a little later. The doctor who treated them pulled Sandman through, but not him.

by Lucy Ingram Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:54 pm

And his last words were apparently "Uhn."

by MajorHoy Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:33 am

by **tony ingram** Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:54 am

I have all three seasons of that, somewhere. Whatever happened to Lyle Waggoner?

by Lucy Ingram Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:39 am

According to Wikipedia he is now a sculptor specialising in "humorous renditions of lovely ladies."

by MajorHoy Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:34 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Whatever happened to Lyle Waggoner?
According to Wikipedia he is now a sculptor specialising in "humorous renditions of lovely ladies."

He's about 80 now, and I didn't realize he was almost Batman instead of Adam West.

Prior to joining Carol Burnett, Waggoner was a finalist for the title role in the TV series version of Batman, but lost the role to Adam West.

by **tony ingram** Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:39 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:
tony ingram wrote:Whatever happened to Lyle Waggoner?
According to Wikipedia he is now a sculptor specialising in "humorous renditions of lovely ladies."
He's about 80 now, and I didn't realize he was almost Batman instead of Adam West.
Prior to joining Carol Burnett, Waggoner was a finalist for the title role in the TV series version of Batman, but lost the role to Adam West.

I did. He guest starred in the TV movie Return to the Batcave: the Misadventures of Adam and Burt, in which West and Ward go in search of a stolen Batmobile.

by Lucy Ingram Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:40 pm

It wouldn't have been the same without Adam West.

by MajorHoy Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:32 am

Back to the old covers from the 1970s:

by **tony ingram** Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:01 am

I remember Kung. He resurfaced in All-Star Squadron, years later.

by Lucy Ingram Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:02 am

Those comics look pretty fun. I'd read them.

by **tony ingram** Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:33 am

Lucy McGough wrote:Those comics look pretty fun. I'd read them.

My favourite Wonder Woman era. Wonder Woman 87796

by Lucy Ingram Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:49 pm

Beautifully drawn, too.

by **tony ingram** Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:57 pm

Back then, most comics artists were actuasl illustrators, not people who'd just learned to draw comics by looking solely at comics.

by Lucy Ingram Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:27 pm

Yes, I know, everything was better back in the 1970s.

by Mbast1 Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:40 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Yes, I know, everything was better back in the 1970s.

They WERE.
IF you were a kid, and only look at the fun stuff. Otherwise, things now are a LOT better.

by **tony ingram** Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:45 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Yes, I know, everything was better back in the 1970s.

They WERE.
IF you were a kid, and only look at the fun stuff. Otherwise, things now are a LOT better.

Really? There was a lot less pointless bureaucracy back then. And no call centres, or automated telephone helplines. Or reality TV.

by Lucy Ingram Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:45 pm

No internet either Sad

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