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Post by MajorHoy on Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:32 pm

I don't normally follow Doctor Who (sorry, Tony), but I'm seeing reports that an episode from January 26th ("Fugitive of the Judoon") apparently indicated there is a possible black female Doctor Who (played by Jodie Whittaker) who appeared as "a tour guide in the English city Gloucester named Ruth Clayton" in the episode?

One other article I saw seemed to indicate there have been . . . mixed reactions . . . to the possibility?

By the way, here's a link to an article from CNN (not the one that mentioned any negative feedback yet) that was originally posted on January 27th (2020): https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/27/entertainment/doctor-who-black-woman-jo-martin-trnd/index.html
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Post by Barry_Allen on Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:25 am

Sounds interesting MajorHoy, Doctor Who airings are quite erratic here, so usually I am not understanding what's happening in the current aired season, but I am enjoying the single episode when I am able to see it in full....! Smile
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Post by Mbast1 on Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:17 pm

MajorHoy wrote:apparently indicated there is a possible black female Doctor Who (played by Jodie Whittaker) who appeared as "a tour guide in the English city Gloucester named Ruth Clayton" in the episode?

I saw the episode, and that seems to be the case.

MajorHoy wrote:One other article I saw seemed to indicate there have been . . . mixed reactions . . . to the possibility?

I have a friend who won't watch Doctor Who because the current Doctor is a woman. Then again, he also won't watch Star Wars. People like what they like, I guess.
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Post by MajorHoy on Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:05 pm

Mbast1 wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:One other article I saw seemed to indicate there have been . . . mixed reactions . . . to the possibility?
I have a friend who won't watch Doctor Who because the current Doctor is a woman. Then again, he also won't watch Star Wars. People like what they like, I guess.
Well, I can sometimes understand when people don't like when a white male character is replaced by another character of a different race/gender but is suppose to be the exact same character because, let's face it, they're really not. If the people who write / produce something want a more inclusive cast, they should just introduce a brand-new character to fill those needs.
However, Doctor Who may be a little different because the character has already been replaced by several different actors already, and the change in who "Doctor Who" is is actually part of the character's back-story, so that one is a little easier to deviate from with who portrays Who (at least to my way of thinking). It's not like when they replace a character on, say, a soap opera with a different actor but they still pretend it's the exact same person.

As for Star Wars, I only watched the first three movies that were released (which turned out to be parts 4-6) when they were initially shown in theaters and enjoyed those. Haven't really felt the need or desire to watch any other parts since then.
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Post by Barry_Allen on Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:21 pm

MajorHoy wrote:
Mbast1 wrote:
MajorHoy wrote:One other article I saw seemed to indicate there have been . . . mixed reactions . . . to the possibility?
I have a friend who won't watch Doctor Who because the current Doctor is a woman. Then again, he also won't watch Star Wars. People like what they like, I guess.
Well, I can sometimes understand when people don't like when a white male character is replaced by another character of a different race/gender but is suppose to be the exact same character because, let's face it, they're really not. If the people who write / produce something want a more inclusive cast, they should just introduce a brand-new character to fill those needs.
However, Doctor Who may be a little different because the character has already been replaced by several different actors already, and the change in who "Doctor Who" is is actually part of the character's back-story, so that one is a little easier to deviate from with who portrays Who (at least to my way of thinking). It's not like when they replace a character on, say, a soap opera with a different actor but they still pretend it's the exact same person.

Of course you're right, I still remember when in soap opera The Bold and The Beautiful (at time super popular here in Italy, where it is still known simply as "Beautiful") they changed the actor who played Ridge's brother Thorn; it made really big news also in real tv news Exclamation then the actor was changed again several times, as for many other characters during the years...
Back on topic, I have this memory of my youth but I don't remember well: wasn't the Universe of Doctor Who supposed to end after the 12th or 13th Doctor? And the authors then found a trick to overcome it and keep the series going?  Suspect  Smile
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As for Star Wars, I only watched the first three movies that were released (which turned out to be parts 4-6) when they were initially shown in theaters and enjoyed those. Haven't really felt the need or desire to watch any other parts since then.
Me too (for the original Star Wars trilogy), then we went (with friends and great expectations.. Mad  ) to see Episode 1 and it was like all of you already know....after that (and Jar-Jar Binks... Evil or Very Mad ) I decided to not give Lucasfilm more money and watched Episode 2 for free in a afternoon in a shopping center near home and (I watched) the third episode on free TV, now out I am out for SW so I'll watch the Mandalorian when it will be aired on local free televisions...
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Post by Mbast1 on Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:41 pm

MajorHoy wrote:Well, I can sometimes understand when people don't like when a white male character is replaced by another character of a different race/gender but is suppose to be the exact same character because, let's face it, they're really not. If the people who write / produce something want a more inclusive cast, they should just introduce a brand-new character to fill those needs.

Well, not to get too deeply into this, most fans of comics (in particular) reject new characters pretty quickly. So, if the producers want to keep their IP (often why a change is made) and gain new followers, this seems like a good choice. If it works. Again, it often doesn't.

MajorHoy wrote:Haven't really felt the need or desire to watch any other parts since then.

I was just using that as an example. He, like others I've known, rejects almost any change. Which is fine, not my place to judge, but companies want to sell things, and the older audiences won't be around forever. So they make changes.
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