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Post by tony ingram on Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:12 pm

Alan Davis and Mark Farmer are one of the best art teams in comics in about thirty years. I loved their work on Clan Destine and Excalibur.

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Post by MLP* on Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:04 pm

I never liked the current DC Comics logo.

Now they've come up with one that's even worse :

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-entertainment-new-logo-120119.html

Meanwhile Fredric Wertham is alive and well.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a361084/dc-comics-depiction-of-sex-and-violence-slammed-by-fox.html

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Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:07 pm

MLP* wrote:I never liked the current DC Comics logo.

Now they've come up with one that's even worse :

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-entertainment-new-logo-120119.html
Why do they want to give the impression of peeling away / coming unstuck / being flakey?

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:22 pm

The new logo is abysmal. It looks bland, clinical and corporate, it says nothing about creativity or fun. What the Hell does it have to do with comics?

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Post by Lucy McGough on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:16 pm

You did see the bit where they had different versions of the logo to go with different titles, right?

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Post by tony ingram on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:19 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:You did see the bit where they had different versions of the logo to go with different titles, right?
Yes, but it only really works with interactive media. As a logo for a print medium, it's abysmal, and comics are still primarily a print medium.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:27 pm

Apparently it's meant to represent duality and secret identities. It's like the logo's wearing a mask.

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Post by tony ingram on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:31 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Apparently it's meant to represent duality and secret identities. It's like the logo's wearing a mask.
Which is all very clever, I'm sure. But a logo needs to be eye catching and self explanatory. if you need to have the deeper meaning pointed out, it's failed. This logo does not, in itself, say 'comics' to me. It doesn't really say anything. The old one was at least immediately identifiable, although still not as good as the DC Bullet design in use until 2005.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Yes... it's just change for the sake of change Sad

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Post by tony ingram on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:41 pm

Much like the entire reboot, as far as I can see...

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Post by MLP* on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:43 am

tony ingram wrote:
Lucy McGough wrote:Apparently it's meant to represent duality and secret identities. It's like the logo's wearing a mask.
Which is all very clever, I'm sure. But a logo needs to be eye catching and self explanatory. if you need to have the deeper meaning pointed out, it's failed. This logo does not, in itself, say 'comics' to me.
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I guess that's the point. They can see which way the wind is blowing so they are moving away from being a comic book publisher and towards being a "multi-media businesss".

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:14 pm

One good thing about the reboot: at least in this continuity Superman will never have had long hair.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:28 pm

I liked the long haired 90's Superman... Crying or Very sad

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Re: DC To Relaunch 52 Titles in September

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:30 pm

Oh. Sorry Embarassed

Um.... he might grow it again?

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:32 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Oh. Sorry Embarassed

Um.... he might grow it again?
Sadly, I think its time has passed.
And it was a little strange that nobody noticed Clark Kent suddenly had a ponytail...

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:37 pm

It was the nineties. They were probably all on ecstasy.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:45 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:It was the nineties. They were probably all on ecstasy.
That would explain some of the stuff that happened in the stories, too! I never quite understood the 'Electric Superman'...

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:50 pm

I didn't understand him, but I liked him. (Actually, I feel that way about a lot of people.)

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:52 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:I didn't understand him, but I liked him. (Actually, I feel that way about a lot of people.)
When did you start reading DC, Luce? It's been awhile, hasn't it? How far back have you gone?

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Re: DC To Relaunch 52 Titles in September

Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:59 pm

I started reading when Grant Morrison was writing the Justice League. Aquaman had a beard and Hal Jordan was the Spectre. Zauriel was around a lot too, but nowadays people seem to have forgotten him Sad

I started reading the Giffen/DeMatteis JLI stuff but then I got a job. Being employed cuts into my reading time, which kind of sucks. And I have to live in Horwich, where there ain't no comic shop.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:03 pm

I suspect that we have seen the last of Zauriel...

I like some of Morrison's work, but I could never get into his JLA. To me, a JLA basically composed of the 'big' characters is just dull, since the writer can never actually do anything interesting with the characters as they all have their own books. With the JLI, the much maligned Detroit League or even James Robinson's League, you never knew what would happen next or who would make it out alive!

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:06 pm

Ah, but Mr Morrison's JLA had Plastic Man in it, which automatically made it awesome Very Happy

Anyway, for me it was more about the team dynamic/interactions than about whether or not someone was going to kick the bucket. And my favourite was J'onn, who didn't have his own title.

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:10 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:Ah, but Mr Morrison's JLA had Plastic Man in it, which automatically made it awesome Very Happy

Anyway, for me it was more about the team dynamic/interactions than about whether or not someone was going to kick the bucket. And my favourite was J'onn, who didn't have his own title.
He did for awhile!

Actually, I always preferred the Elongated Man to Plastic Man. Poor old Ralph seems to have been royally shafted by the reboot, too...

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Post by Lucy McGough on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:14 pm

tony ingram wrote:He did for awhile!
I know - I recently bought some issues from eBay. They're waiting for me in Northwich.

tony ingram wrote:Actually, I always preferred the Elongated Man to Plastic Man. Poor old Ralph seems to have been royally shafted by the reboot, too...
Ha, hasn't everyone? Look at what they did to Starfire!

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Post by tony ingram on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:15 pm

Yes. The term 'shafted' seems particularly appropriate for Starfire, somehow... Twisted Evil

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Re: DC To Relaunch 52 Titles in September

Post by tony ingram on Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:00 am

It seems all is not well at the new DC. John Rozum speaks here, on the failure of one of the first batch of titles to be cancelled...

http://johnrozum.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-quit-static-shock.html

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Re: DC To Relaunch 52 Titles in September

Post by Spektre on Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:04 am

tony ingram wrote:I really don't think this is going to work, long term. It strikes me as a move born out of desperation to attract new readers, which will instead drive away a lot of the older readers who are effectively keeping the company afloat. It will only work if a) the number of new readers outweighs the number of longtime fans who give up on them (and I think a lot will) and b) the new readers then stay on board for the long haul, which is a big gamble.

One they appear to have lost.

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Post by Spektre on Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:06 am

tony ingram wrote:Yes. The term 'shafted' seems particularly appropriate for Starfire, somehow... Twisted Evil

ewwww, burn!

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Re: DC To Relaunch 52 Titles in September

Post by tony ingram on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:02 pm

Found this today and it made me laugh...


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Post by Spektre on Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am

Saw that one a few months back...awesome.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:58 am

Made me laugh too Very Happy

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:38 am

Spektre wrote:Saw that one a few months back...awesome.
Hello, Spek. How've you been?

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Post by Spektre on Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:05 pm

Eh, up and down. Health never cooperates, and sometimes sysops don't either.

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Post by Spektre on Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:58 am

Tony, You are banned over at CBR now?

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:09 am

Spektre wrote:Tony, You are banned over at CBR now?
Looks like it. Not entirely sure why.

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Post by Spektre on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:13 am

These weak willed moderators are a pretty sad lot.

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Post by tony ingram on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:40 am

So, where have you been hiding Spek? I thought you'd forsaken us...

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Post by Spektre on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:37 am

Oh no, not forsaken at all. I don't have anything to contribute on non-US based comics so my conversation here are a bit limited. I have multiple logins at all the standard message boards. It seems to be a necessity.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:45 am

I was accused of having multiple accounts over on the DCMB yesterday, seemingly just because another guy and I both disagreed with a rather bizarre assertion that Stan Lee stole Peter Parker's name from Pete Ross and Chief Parker in Superboy. One of the oddest conversations I've had in awhile.

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Re: DC To Relaunch 52 Titles in September

Post by Spektre on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:51 am

Since the implementation of his rules, Tenz doesn't get enough traffic there to be relevant. I'm thinking of hitting the Outhouse and see how it is. They like Herald so....

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Post by Spektre on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:53 am

tony ingram wrote:I was accused of having multiple accounts over on the DCMB yesterday, seemingly just because another guy and I both disagreed with a rather bizarre assertion that Stan Lee stole Peter Parker's name from Pete Ross and Chief Parker in Superboy. One of the oddest conversations I've had in awhile.

I read the post ( not the accusation) and got a chuckle.

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:57 am

I think the guy's insane.

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Post by Spektre on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:02 am

..and anoher chuckle to see the specter of Spektre came up in the selfsame thread lol

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Post by tony ingram on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:14 am

Oh, you've made quite an impression, don't worry...

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Post by Mbast1 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:39 am

tony ingram wrote:Stan Lee stole Peter Parker's name from Pete Ross and Chief Parker in Superboy

Really? That is just weird. I don't see any reason to think it's true (seems as though this person thinks that having the same name as someone else is stealing. I'll have to tell my dad, since clearly he stole my grandfather's name...) but even if it were, so what? I mean, that's just pointlessly petty.

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Post by Lucy McGough on Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:58 am

Sincerest form of flattery, and all that.

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