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Post by MLP* Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:04 pm

I was a regular reader of Superman during the Byrne / Ordway era but gave up in the early nineties.

I picked up Superman # 700 on a whim.

The "flashback" Robin team up was good fun and accessible to those like me who haven't picked up a Superman book in a long time.

The JMS story was a bit po faced, so not really going to entice me back into being a regular reader I'm afraid.

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Post by Lucy Ingram Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:10 am

Superman is an emo wuss.

Martian Manhunter FTW.
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Post by tony ingram Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:22 pm

If you'd had your history mucked about with as much as Superman has, you'd be an emo wuss. Not to mention the fact that he carries with him the soul destroying tragedy of being the very last son of Krypton, the sole survivor of his race!

Except for Supergirl, of course.
And General Zod, Ursa, Non, Faora, Quex Ul, Kru El, Jax Ur and the rest of the Phantom Zone villains.
And the entire populations of the bottle city of Kandor and Argo City.
And the Kryptonian colony on the planet Daxam, home of Mon El.
And Krypto the Superdog and Beppo the Supermonkey.
And Power Girl (though she's actually from an alternate Krypton).
And Doomsday.

....

Come to think of it, I'm not entirely sure Jor El and Lara weren't the only people actually still on Krypton when it blew up...
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Post by Lucy Ingram Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:08 pm

And now there's New Krypton. The Doctor may not have super-strength and heat vision, but he's a heck of a lot better at being the last of his species.
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Post by tony ingram Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:10 pm

Lucy McGough wrote:And now there's New Krypton. The Doctor may not have super-strength and heat vision, but he's a heck of a lot better at being the last of his species.
The Martian Manhunter isn't doing too well in the 'last son of Mars' stakes, either... Superman Icon_razz
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Post by Mbast1 Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:43 am

tony ingram wrote:Come to think of it, I'm not entirely sure Jor El and Lara weren't the only people actually still on Krypton when it blew up...

Did you ever read that Bronze Age story where Superboy found them, frozen? It was an ok story, but never mentioned again.
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Post by tony ingram Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:28 am

Yep, still got it somewhere! They'd survived Krypton's destruction, but Superboy couldn't thaw them out without killing them, so he sent them off into space again. An Earth B story by default, I think! Razz
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Post by Mbast1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:09 pm

tony ingram wrote:An Earth B story by default, I think! Razz

I always thought it would be fun for people to catalog (possible) Earth-B stories. Maybe even Bridwell himself, before he'd passed.
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Post by tony ingram Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:13 pm

Well, I recall hearing somewhere that the Wildcat from those old Brave & the Bold stories, who was generally regarded as being an Earth B character, was eventually confirmed by DC to exist on earth One shortly before the Crisis on Infinite earths. It seems catalouging those stories may not be that easy...
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Post by Mbast1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:35 pm

tony ingram wrote:It seems catalouging those stories may not be that easy...

No, but having a list might be fun. I've read (possibly have) some of the Brave and the Bold stories. I enjoy them.
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Post by tony ingram Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:52 pm

I do, too. Remember Bruce Wayne's insane elder brother Thomas, who'd been locked up in an asylum all his life without Bruce knowing he existed? Razz
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Post by Mbast1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:36 pm

tony ingram wrote:Remember Bruce Wayne's insane elder brother Thomas, who'd been locked up in an asylum all his life without Bruce knowing he existed? Razz

I think I read that. If not, I read about it, with panels, because I "remember" some of it. Unreliable as memory is. I think that might be where Morrison got the Thomas Wayne who became Owlman in Earth 2, maybe?
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Post by tony ingram Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:59 pm

Possibly. In the original scenario, Thomas breaks out of the asylum and is tricked into committing murder. Deadman stops him doing any more damage, then decides that since Thomas's mind is basically gone he'll effectively steal his body permanently in order to become physical again, and Supes and Batman have to go after him. Naturally, Thomas ends up dead.
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Post by Mbast1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:11 pm

tony ingram wrote:Naturally, Thomas ends up dead.

You wouldn't happen to know the issue for that? I'd love to read it, as I think I DID just read a summary.
Thanks!
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Post by tony ingram Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:03 am

World's Finest #223 (May 1974) and #227 (Jan 1975).
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Post by Mbast1 Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:40 pm

tony ingram wrote:World's Finest #223 (May 1974) and #227 (Jan 1975).

I'll start checking stores now! Thanks.
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Post by Mbast1 Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:49 am

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tony ingram wrote:World's Finest #223 (May 1974) and #227

Bought them both today! Thanks.
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